Fiat 70-90 (DT) vs SAME Argon 70
16 material differences
Which should you choose?
We will not advise between these two machines, because the drive differs (Two-wheel or four-wheel drive; 4WD); they were not built in overlapping years (1984–1992; 1993–2004). The figures below are side by side so you can judge them yourself; each says whether it was measured, claimed or declared by its source.
Field by field
16 material differences · 2 fields identical or within 5%, which is not counted as material
| Field | 70-90 (DT) | Argon 70 | Gap |
|---|---|---|---|
| Engine | |||
| Engine power, claimed claimed | 69.1 hp | 69.1 hp | — |
| Engine declared | FIAT-IVECO 8045.06.200 or 300 | SAME 1000.3 AT | differs |
| Displacement declared | 3.61 L | 3.00 L | +20% 70-90 (DT) |
| Maximum torque declared | 168 lb·ft · 228 N·m | 188 lb·ft · 255 N·m | +12% Argon 70 |
| Transmission | |||
| Top speed declared | 18.6–24.9 mph · 30–40 km/h | 18.6–24.9 mph · 30–40 km/h | — |
| Clutch declared | Dry VALEO, O.M.G. or LuK double clutch | Dry S.L.H. double clutch | differs |
| Hydraulics & hitch | |||
| Hydraulic control declared | — | Load sensing | — |
| Pump flow declared | 9.4 gpm · 35.5 L/min | 12.4 gpm · 47.0 L/min | +32% Argon 70 |
| Pressure declared | 3,046–3,118 psi · 210–215 bar | 2,176 psi · 150 bar | differs |
| Three-point lift at ends declared | — | 6,393 lb · 2,900 kg | — |
| Rear PTO speeds declared | 540/1000 rpm | 540/540E rpm | differs |
| Weight & dimensions | |||
| Unladen weight declared | 6,702 lb · 3,040 kg | 5,732 lb · 2,600 kg | +17% 70-90 (DT) |
| Maximum permissible mass declared | 11,684 lb · 5,300 kg | 10,141 lb · 4,600 kg | +15% 70-90 (DT) |
| Wheelbase declared | 92.2 in · 2,342 mm | 80.9 in · 2,056 mm | +14% 70-90 (DT) |
| Length declared | 152.9 in · 3,884 mm | 141.3 in · 3,590 mm | +8% 70-90 (DT) |
| Width declared | 76.0 in · 1,930 mm | 70.1 in · 1,780 mm | +8% 70-90 (DT) |
| Height declared | 103.0 in · 2,615 mm | 90.7 in · 2,305 mm | +13% 70-90 (DT) |
| Ground clearance declared | 19.9 in · 505 mm | 14.8 in · 375 mm | +35% 70-90 (DT) |
| Turning radius, braked declared | 11.4 ft · 3.48 m | 10.0 ft · 3.05 m | +14% 70-90 (DT) |
| Fuel tank declared | 98.3 qt · 93.0 L | 61.3 qt · 58.0 L | +60% 70-90 (DT) |
Fiat 70-90 (DT) sources
Source
- Source: Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 70-90/70-90 DT”
SAME Argon 70 sources
Source
- Source: Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Argon 70”