SAME Mercury 85 Export (DT) or VALMET 665?
Which should you choose?
The figures split: the VALMET 665 is ahead on hydraulic flow; the SAME Mercury 85 Export (DT) is ahead on three-point lift and PTO speeds.
- The SAME Mercury 85 Export (DT) suits PTO-driven implements (mowers, balers, pumps) better on this data: offers 1000 rpm.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | Mercury 85 Export (DT) | 665 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 49.0 kW (65.7 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Mercury 85” | 49.0 kW (65.7 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 665” | EvenEven on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the Mercury 85 Export (DT) and the 665. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the Mercury 85 Export (DT) and the 665. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 41.0 L/min (10.8 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Mercury 85” | 52.4 L/min (13.8 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 665” | AheadThe VALMET 665 has 28% more hydraulic flow (11.4 L/min / 3.0 gpm) than the SAME Mercury 85 Export (DT) (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 3,700 kg (8,157 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Mercury 85” | 2,580 kg (5,688 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 665” | AheadThe SAME Mercury 85 Export (DT) has 43% more lift (1,120 kg / 2,469 lb) than the VALMET 665 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 3,270 kg (7,209 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Mercury 85” | 3,280 kg (7,231 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 665” | EvenEven on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the Mercury 85 Export (DT) and the 665. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Mercury 85” | 8 to 12Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 665” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the Mercury 85 Export (DT) and the 665. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 25 km/h (15.5 mph) to 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Mercury 85” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 665” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Mercury 85” | 540E/540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 665” | AheadThe SAME Mercury 85 Export (DT) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the VALMET 665 does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the Mercury 85 Export (DT) and the 665. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Mercury 85” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 665” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1981–1985 | 1992–1997 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The VALMET 665 is newer: production began 11 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The VALMET 665 has 28% more hydraulic flow (11.4 L/min / 3.0 gpm) than the SAME Mercury 85 Export (DT) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The SAME Mercury 85 Export (DT) has 43% more lift (1,120 kg / 2,469 lb) than the VALMET 665 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The SAME Mercury 85 Export (DT) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the VALMET 665 does not (as stated by the sources).
- The VALMET 665 is newer: production began 11 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call.
- Even on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources