SAME Laser 100 (DT) or VALMET 8000?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the Laser 100 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 8000 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | Laser 100 (DT) | 8000 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 72.1 kW (96.7 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 100” | 72.1 kW (96.7 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 8000” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the Laser 100 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 8000 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the Laser 100 (DT) and the 8000. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the Laser 100 (DT) and the 8000. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 66.0 L/min (17.4 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 100” | 66.4 L/min (17.5 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 8000” | EvenEven on hydraulic flow (both pump flow, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 4,600 kg (10,141 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 100” | 4,295 kg (9,469 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 8000” | EvenEven on three-point lift (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 3,940 kg (8,686 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 100” | 4,560 kg (10,053 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 8000” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The VALMET 8000 is 16% heavier (620 kg / 1,367 lb) than the SAME Laser 100 (DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | 7,500 kg (16,535 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 8000” | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the Laser 100 (DT). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 20 to 24Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 100” | 12 to 36Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 8000” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | YesTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 100” | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 8000. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 100” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 8000” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 100” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 8000” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 100” | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 8000. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 100” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 8000” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1986–1991 | 1991–1996 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The VALMET 8000 is newer: production began 5 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The VALMET 8000 is 16% heavier (620 kg / 1,367 lb) than the SAME Laser 100 (DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The VALMET 8000 is newer: production began 5 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on hydraulic flow (both pump flow, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on three-point lift (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the Laser 100 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 8000 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources