SAME Explorer 80 II (DT) or VALMET 655/655-4?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the Explorer 80 II (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 655/655-4 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | Explorer 80 II (DT) | 655/655-4 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 58.8 kW (78.9 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Explorer II 80” | 58.8 kW (78.9 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 655” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the Explorer 80 II (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 655/655-4 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the Explorer 80 II (DT) and the 655/655-4. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the Explorer 80 II (DT) and the 655/655-4. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 40.5 L/min (10.7 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Explorer II 80” | — | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the 655/655-4. |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | — | 4,500 kg (9,921 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 655” | No figureNo call on three-point lift: no figure on record for the Explorer 80 II (DT). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 3,050 kg (6,724 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Explorer II 80” | 3,760 kg (8,289 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 655” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The VALMET 655/655-4 is 23% heavier (710 kg / 1,565 lb) than the SAME Explorer 80 II (DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the Explorer 80 II (DT) and the 655/655-4. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 15 to 20Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Explorer II 80” | 8 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 655” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the Explorer 80 II (DT) and the 655/655-4. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Explorer II 80” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 655” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/540E/1000E/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Explorer II 80” | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 655” | AheadThe SAME Explorer 80 II (DT) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the VALMET 655/655-4 does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Explorer II 80” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 655” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Explorer II 80” | 2WD / 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 655” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1989–1998 | 1988–1989 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The VALMET 655/655-4 is 23% heavier (710 kg / 1,565 lb) than the SAME Explorer 80 II (DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The SAME Explorer 80 II (DT) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the VALMET 655/655-4 does not (as stated by the sources).
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the Explorer 80 II (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 655/655-4 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow, three-point lift, maximum permissible mass and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources