SAME Explorer 60 II (DT) or VALMET 365 (365-4)?
Which should you choose?
On performance, every comparable figure that differs favours the VALMET 365 (365-4): hydraulic flow and three-point lift. On features, the SAME Explorer 60 II (DT) is ahead on PTO speeds.
- The SAME Explorer 60 II (DT) suits PTO-driven implements (mowers, balers, pumps) better on this data: offers 1000 rpm.
- The VALMET 365 (365-4) suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 93% (26.5 L/min / 7.0 gpm) more hydraulic flow and 13% (300 kg / 661 lb) more three-point lift.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | Explorer 60 II (DT) | 365 (365-4) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 36.6 kW (49.1 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Explorer II 60” | 37.0 kW (49.6 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 365” | EvenEven on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the Explorer 60 II (DT) and the 365 (365-4). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the Explorer 60 II (DT) and the 365 (365-4). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 28.5 L/min (7.5 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Explorer II 60” | 55.0 L/min (14.5 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 365” | AheadThe VALMET 365 (365-4) has 93% more hydraulic flow (26.5 L/min / 7.0 gpm) than the SAME Explorer 60 II (DT) (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 2,280 kg (5,027 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Explorer II 60” | 2,580 kg (5,688 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 365” | AheadThe VALMET 365 (365-4) has 13% more lift (300 kg / 661 lb) than the SAME Explorer 60 II (DT) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 2,540 kg (5,600 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Explorer II 60” | 2,820 kg (6,217 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 365” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The VALMET 365 (365-4) is 11% heavier (280 kg / 617 lb) than the SAME Explorer 60 II (DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the Explorer 60 II (DT) and the 365 (365-4). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 15 to 20Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Explorer II 60” | 8 to 12Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 365” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the Explorer 60 II (DT) and the 365 (365-4). |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Explorer II 60” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 365” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/540E/1000E/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Explorer II 60” | 540E/540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 365” | AheadThe SAME Explorer 60 II (DT) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the VALMET 365 (365-4) does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Explorer II 60” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 365” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Explorer II 60” | 2WD / 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 365” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1989–1998 | 1994–1997 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The VALMET 365 (365-4) is newer: production began 5 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The VALMET 365 (365-4) has 93% more hydraulic flow (26.5 L/min / 7.0 gpm) than the SAME Explorer 60 II (DT) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The VALMET 365 (365-4) has 13% more lift (300 kg / 661 lb) than the SAME Explorer 60 II (DT) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The VALMET 365 (365-4) is 11% heavier (280 kg / 617 lb) than the SAME Explorer 60 II (DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The SAME Explorer 60 II (DT) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the VALMET 365 (365-4) does not (as stated by the sources).
- The VALMET 365 (365-4) is newer: production began 5 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources