Renault Ceres 85 X (A) or VALMET 4500?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the Ceres 85 X (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 4500 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Renault Ceres 85 X (A) suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 34% (970 kg / 2,138 lb) more three-point lift.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | Ceres 85 X (A) | 4500 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 55.2 kW (74.0 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 85X” | 55.2 kW (74.0 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 4500” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the Ceres 85 X (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 4500 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the Ceres 85 X (A) and the 4500. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the Ceres 85 X (A) and the 4500. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | — | 39.0 L/min (10.3 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 4500” | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the Ceres 85 X (A). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 3,825 kg (8,433 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 85X” | 2,855 kg (6,294 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 4500” | AheadThe Renault Ceres 85 X (A) has 34% more lift (970 kg / 2,138 lb) than the VALMET 4500 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 3,480 kg (7,672 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 85X” | 2,820 kg (6,217 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 4500” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Renault Ceres 85 X (A) is 23% heavier (660 kg / 1,455 lb) than the VALMET 4500 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the Ceres 85 X (A) and the 4500. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 18 to 20Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 85X” | 8 to 12Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 4500” | AheadThe Renault Ceres 85 X (A) has 50% more forward gears (6 gears) than the VALMET 4500 (both forward gears, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the Ceres 85 X (A) and the 4500. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 85X” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 4500” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 85X” | 540E/540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 4500” | AheadThe Renault Ceres 85 X (A) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the VALMET 4500 does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 85X” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 4500” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 85X” | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 4500” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1994–1998 | 1993–1996 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Renault Ceres 85 X (A) has 34% more lift (970 kg / 2,138 lb) than the VALMET 4500 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The Renault Ceres 85 X (A) is 23% heavier (660 kg / 1,455 lb) than the VALMET 4500 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Renault Ceres 85 X (A) has 50% more forward gears (6 gears) than the VALMET 4500 (both forward gears, as stated by the source).
- The Renault Ceres 85 X (A) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the VALMET 4500 does not (as stated by the sources).
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the Ceres 85 X (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 4500 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow, maximum permissible mass and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources