OLIVER 1465 or VALMET 802/802-4?
Which should you choose?
On performance, every comparable figure that differs favours the VALMET 802/802-4: hydraulic flow and three-point lift. It is also ahead on top speed.
- The VALMET 802/802-4 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 83% (19.5 L/min / 5.2 gpm) more hydraulic flow and 38% (800 kg / 1,764 lb) more three-point lift.
- The VALMET 802/802-4 suits road haulage better on this data: 20% (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) more top speed.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 1465 | 802/802-4 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 51.5 kW (69.0 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Oliver 1465” | 50.9 kW (68.3 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 802” | EvenEven on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 1465 and the 802/802-4. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 1465 and the 802/802-4. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 23.5 L/min (6.2 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Oliver 1465” | 43.0 L/min (11.4 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 802” | AheadThe VALMET 802/802-4 has 83% more hydraulic flow (19.5 L/min / 5.2 gpm) than the OLIVER 1465 (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 2,100 kg (4,630 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Oliver 1465” | 2,900 kg (6,393 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 802” | AheadThe VALMET 802/802-4 has 38% more lift (800 kg / 1,764 lb) than the OLIVER 1465 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 2,948 kg (6,499 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Oliver 1465” | 3,539 kg (7,802 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 802” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The VALMET 802/802-4 is 20% heavier (591 kg / 1,303 lb) than the OLIVER 1465 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 1465 and the 802/802-4. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 7Traktorenlexikon, “Oliver 1465” | 8Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 802” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 1465 and the 802/802-4. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Oliver 1465” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 802” | AheadThe VALMET 802/802-4 has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the OLIVER 1465 (both top speed forward, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Oliver 1465” | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 802” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 802” | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 1465. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Oliver 1465” | 2WD / 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 802” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1973–1975 | 1980–1983 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The VALMET 802/802-4 is newer: production began 7 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The VALMET 802/802-4 has 83% more hydraulic flow (19.5 L/min / 5.2 gpm) than the OLIVER 1465 (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The VALMET 802/802-4 has 38% more lift (800 kg / 1,764 lb) than the OLIVER 1465 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The VALMET 802/802-4 is 20% heavier (591 kg / 1,303 lb) than the OLIVER 1465 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The VALMET 802/802-4 has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the OLIVER 1465 (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
- The VALMET 802/802-4 is newer: production began 7 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540 rpm).
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources