Massey Ferguson MF 185 Super (A) or Renault 751?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the MF 185 Super (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 751 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Renault 751 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 31% (650 kg / 1,433 lb) more three-point lift.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “similar machines”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | MF 185 Super (A) | 751 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 54.5 kW (73.1 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 185” | 55.2 kW (74.0 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 751 R7621” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the MF 185 Super (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 751 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the MF 185 Super (A) and the 751. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the MF 185 Super (A) and the 751. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | — | 33.0 L/min (8.7 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 751 R7621” | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the MF 185 Super (A). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 2,100 kg (4,630 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 185” | 2,750 kg (6,063 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 751 R7621” | AheadThe Renault 751 has 31% more lift (650 kg / 1,433 lb) than the Massey Ferguson MF 185 Super (A) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 2,450 kg (5,401 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 185” | 2,995 kg (6,603 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 751 R7621” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Renault 751 is 22% heavier (545 kg / 1,202 lb) than the Massey Ferguson MF 185 Super (A) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the MF 185 Super (A) and the 751. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 8 to 12Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 185” | 12 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 751 R7621” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | YesTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 751 R7621” | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the MF 185 Super (A). |
| Which is faster on the road? | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 185” | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 751 R7621” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 185” | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 751 R7621” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 751 R7621” | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the MF 185 Super (A). |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 185” | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 751 R7621”; Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 751S R7501” | EvenEven on drive: all two-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1971–1976 | 1973–1980 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Renault 751 has 31% more lift (650 kg / 1,433 lb) than the Massey Ferguson MF 185 Super (A) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The Renault 751 is 22% heavier (545 kg / 1,202 lb) than the Massey Ferguson MF 185 Super (A) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540 rpm).
- Even on drive: all two-wheel drive.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the MF 185 Super (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 751 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources