Massey Ferguson MF 165 vs Renault 385 / R 78
13 material differences
Which should you choose?
We will not advise between these two machines, because the drive differs (2WD / 4WD; 2WD). The figures below are side by side so you can judge them yourself; each says whether it was measured, claimed or declared by its source.
Field by field
13 material differences · 3 fields identical or within 5%, which is not counted as material
| Field | MF 165 | 385 / R 78 | Gap |
|---|---|---|---|
| Engine | |||
| Engine power, claimed claimed | 57.3 hp | 54.3 hp | +5% MF 165 |
| Engine declared | Perkins AD 4.203 | RENAULT-ALFA 591-30 | differs |
| Displacement declared | 3.34 L | 3.02 L | +11% MF 165 |
| Maximum torque declared | 166 lb·ft · 226 N·m | 130 lb·ft · 177 N·m | +28% MF 165 |
| Transmission | |||
| Top speed declared | 12.4 mph · 20 km/h | 15.5 mph · 25 km/h | +25% 385 / R 78 |
| Clutch declared | Pedal operated dry and air cooled MF double clutch | dry Borg-Beck double clutch with two-stage pedal actuation | differs |
| Hydraulics & hitch | |||
| Pump flow declared | 4.3 gpm · 16.4 L/min | 6.9 gpm · 26.0 L/min | +59% 385 / R 78 |
| Pressure declared | 3,001 psi · 207 bar | — | — |
| Three-point lift at ends declared | 2,870 lb · 1,302 kg | 3,307 lb · 1,500 kg | +15% 385 / R 78 |
| Rear PTO speeds declared | 540 rpm | 540 rpm | — |
| Weight & dimensions | |||
| Unladen weight declared | 4,784 lb · 2,170 kg | 5,818 lb · 2,639 kg | +22% 385 / R 78 |
| Wheelbase declared | 81.9 in · 2,080 mm | 87.6 in · 2,225 mm | +7% 385 / R 78 |
| Length declared | 134.3 in · 3,410 mm | 153.0 in · 3,885 mm | +14% 385 / R 78 |
| Width declared | 72.8 in · 1,850 mm | 74.8 in · 1,900 mm | — |
| Height declared | 64.6 in · 1,640 mm | 66.1 in · 1,680 mm | — |
| Ground clearance declared | 14.6 in · 370 mm | 16.5 in · 420 mm | +14% 385 / R 78 |
| Turning radius, braked declared | 11.3 ft · 3.45 m | 12.1 ft · 3.70 m | +7% 385 / R 78 |
| Fuel tank declared | 69.7 qt · 66.0 L | 84.5 qt · 80.0 L | +21% 385 / R 78 |
Massey Ferguson MF 165 sources
Source
- Source: Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 165”
- Source: Traktorenlexikon, “Eicher 3354 Mammut 74 A”
Renault 385 / R 78 sources
Source
- Source: Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 385/R 78”
- Source: Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Master 2 R78”