Landini R-8860 (DT) TL-23 N/M (TL-23 DT/M) or VALMET 655/655-4?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the R-8860 (DT) TL-23 N/M (TL-23 DT/M) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 655/655-4 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The VALMET 655/655-4 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 128% (2,530 kg / 5,578 lb) more three-point lift.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | R-8860 (DT) TL-23 N/M (TL-23 DT/M) | 655/655-4 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 58.8 kW (78.9 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 8860” | 58.8 kW (78.9 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 655” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the R-8860 (DT) TL-23 N/M (TL-23 DT/M) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 655/655-4 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the R-8860 (DT) TL-23 N/M (TL-23 DT/M) and the 655/655-4. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the R-8860 (DT) TL-23 N/M (TL-23 DT/M) and the 655/655-4. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 35.3 L/min (9.3 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 8860” | — | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the 655/655-4. |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 1,970 kg (4,343 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 8860” | 4,500 kg (9,921 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 655” | AheadThe VALMET 655/655-4 has 128% more lift (2,530 kg / 5,578 lb) than the Landini R-8860 (DT) TL-23 N/M (TL-23 DT/M) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 2,920 kg (6,437 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 8860” | 3,760 kg (8,289 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 655” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The VALMET 655/655-4 is 29% heavier (840 kg / 1,852 lb) than the Landini R-8860 (DT) TL-23 N/M (TL-23 DT/M) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the R-8860 (DT) TL-23 N/M (TL-23 DT/M) and the 655/655-4. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12 to 24Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 8860” | 8 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 655” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the R-8860 (DT) TL-23 N/M (TL-23 DT/M) and the 655/655-4. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 8860” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 655” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Landini 8860” | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 655” | AheadThe Landini R-8860 (DT) TL-23 N/M (TL-23 DT/M) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the VALMET 655/655-4 does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 655” | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the R-8860 (DT) TL-23 N/M (TL-23 DT/M). |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Landini 8860” | 2WD / 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 655” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1988–2000 | 1988–1989 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The VALMET 655/655-4 has 128% more lift (2,530 kg / 5,578 lb) than the Landini R-8860 (DT) TL-23 N/M (TL-23 DT/M) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The VALMET 655/655-4 is 29% heavier (840 kg / 1,852 lb) than the Landini R-8860 (DT) TL-23 N/M (TL-23 DT/M) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Landini R-8860 (DT) TL-23 N/M (TL-23 DT/M) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the VALMET 655/655-4 does not (as stated by the sources).
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the R-8860 (DT) TL-23 N/M (TL-23 DT/M) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 655/655-4 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources