Landini 5830 (DT) TL-22 N/G (TL-DT/L) or VALMET 504?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 5830 (DT) TL-22 N/G (TL-DT/L) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 504 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Landini 5830 (DT) TL-22 N/G (TL-DT/L) suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 34% (9.1 L/min / 2.4 gpm) more hydraulic flow and 14% (255 kg / 562 lb) more three-point lift.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 5830 (DT) TL-22 N/G (TL-DT/L) | 504 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 36.8 kW (49.3 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 5830 (DT)” | 36.8 kW (49.3 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 504” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 5830 (DT) TL-22 N/G (TL-DT/L) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 504 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 5830 (DT) TL-22 N/G (TL-DT/L) and the 504. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 5830 (DT) TL-22 N/G (TL-DT/L) and the 504. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 36.1 L/min (9.5 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 5830 (DT)” | 27.0 L/min (7.1 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 504” | AheadThe Landini 5830 (DT) TL-22 N/G (TL-DT/L) has 34% more hydraulic flow (9.1 L/min / 2.4 gpm) than the VALMET 504 (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 2,050 kg (4,519 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 5830 (DT)” | 1,795 kg (3,957 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 504” | AheadThe Landini 5830 (DT) TL-22 N/G (TL-DT/L) has 14% more lift (255 kg / 562 lb) than the VALMET 504 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 2,120 kg (4,674 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 5830 (DT)” | 2,690 kg (5,930 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 504” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The VALMET 504 is 27% heavier (570 kg / 1,257 lb) than the Landini 5830 (DT) TL-22 N/G (TL-DT/L) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 5830 (DT) TL-22 N/G (TL-DT/L) and the 504. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 5830 (DT)” | 6Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 504” | AheadThe Landini 5830 (DT) TL-22 N/G (TL-DT/L) has 100% more forward gears (6 gears) than the VALMET 504 (both forward gears, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 5830 (DT) TL-22 N/G (TL-DT/L) and the 504. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 5830 (DT)” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 504” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Landini 5830 (DT)” | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 504” | AheadThe Landini 5830 (DT) TL-22 N/G (TL-DT/L) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the VALMET 504 does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 5830 (DT) TL-22 N/G (TL-DT/L) and the 504. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Landini 5830 (DT)” | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 504” | AheadThe Landini 5830 (DT) TL-22 N/G (TL-DT/L) is available with four-wheel drive; the VALMET 504 is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources). |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1983–1987 | 1982–1985 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Landini 5830 (DT) TL-22 N/G (TL-DT/L) has 34% more hydraulic flow (9.1 L/min / 2.4 gpm) than the VALMET 504 (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The Landini 5830 (DT) TL-22 N/G (TL-DT/L) has 14% more lift (255 kg / 562 lb) than the VALMET 504 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The VALMET 504 is 27% heavier (570 kg / 1,257 lb) than the Landini 5830 (DT) TL-22 N/G (TL-DT/L) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Landini 5830 (DT) TL-22 N/G (TL-DT/L) has 100% more forward gears (6 gears) than the VALMET 504 (both forward gears, as stated by the source).
- The Landini 5830 (DT) TL-22 N/G (TL-DT/L) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the VALMET 504 does not (as stated by the sources).
- The Landini 5830 (DT) TL-22 N/G (TL-DT/L) is available with four-wheel drive; the VALMET 504 is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources).
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 5830 (DT) TL-22 N/G (TL-DT/L) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 504 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources