12 material differences
Tractor oneJohn Deere 81202002–2005No measured PTO figureTractor twoMassey Ferguson MF 8160 A1995–1999No measured PTO figure
Which should you choose?
We will not advise between these two machines, because they were not built in overlapping years (2002–2005; 1995–1999). The figures below are side by side so you can judge them yourself; each says whether it was measured, claimed or declared by its source.
Field by field
12 material differences · 4 fields identical or within 5%, which is not counted as material
| Field | 8120 | MF 8160 A | Gap |
|---|---|---|---|
| Engine | |||
| Engine power, claimed claimed | 197.4 hp | 197.4 hp | — |
| Engine declared | John Deere-PowerTech 6.081 HRW-217 | VALMET 634 DS | differs |
| Displacement declared | 8.13 L | 7.37 L | +10% 8120 |
| Maximum torque declared | 632 lb·ft · 857 N·m | 586 lb·ft · 795 N·m | +8% 8120 |
| Transmission | |||
| Top speed declared | 24.9 mph · 40 km/h | 18.6–24.9 mph · 30–40 km/h | differs |
| Clutch declared | — | Pedal-operated dry VALEO double clutch | — |
| Hydraulics & hitch | |||
| Hydraulic centre declared | Closed centre | — | — |
| Hydraulic control declared | Load sensing | — | — |
| Pump flow declared | — | 14.1 gpm · 53.3 L/min | — |
| Pressure declared | 2,683 psi · 185 bar | 2,901 psi · 200 bar | +8% MF 8160 A |
| Three-point lift, at the coupling points declared | 10,803 lb · 4,900 kg | 12,434 lb · 5,640 kg | +15% MF 8160 A |
| Rear PTO speeds declared | 1000 rpm | 540/540E/1000 rpm | differs |
| Weight & dimensions | |||
| Unladen weight declared | 18,109 lb · 8,214 kg | 14,815 lb · 6,720 kg | +22% 8120 |
| Maximum permissible mass declared | 30,865 lb · 14,000 kg | 19,842 lb · 9,000 kg | +56% 8120 |
| Wheelbase declared | 123.2 in · 3,130 mm | 115.7 in · 2,940 mm | +6% 8120 |
| Length declared | 230.3 in · 5,850 mm | 220.9 in · 5,610 mm | — |
| Width declared | 100.0 in · 2,540 mm | 97.6 in · 2,480 mm | — |
| Height, over the cab declared | 124.0 in · 3,150 mm | 119.7 in · 3,040 mm | — |
| Ground clearance declared | 15.0 in · 380 mm | 18.2 in · 463 mm | +22% MF 8160 A |
| Fuel tank declared | 540.0 qt · 511.0 L | 285.3 qt · 270.0 L | +89% 8120 |
John Deere 8120 sources
Source
- Source: Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 8120”
- Source: OECD test report 2083, 2003
Massey Ferguson MF 8160 A sources
Source
- Source: Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8160”