John Deere 5103 vs SAME Argon 60 (DT)
12 material differences
Which should you choose?
We will not advise between these two machines, because their power is not stated as the same quantity on both; the drive differs (2WD / 4WD; 4WD). The figures below are side by side so you can judge them yourself; each says whether it was measured, claimed or declared by its source.
Field by field
12 material differences · 4 fields identical or within 5%, which is not counted as material
| Field | 5103 | Argon 60 (DT) | Gap |
|---|---|---|---|
| Measured performance | |||
| PTO power, measured measured | 49.8 hp | — | — |
| Drawbar power, measured measured | 40.9 hp | — | — |
| Engine | |||
| Engine power, claimed claimed | — | 59.1 hp | — |
| Engine declared | John Deere 3.029 DPY-12 | SAME 1000.3 A-4 | differs |
| Displacement declared | 2.90 L | 3.00 L | — |
| Maximum torque declared | 129 lb·ft · 175.2 N·m | 148 lb·ft · 201 N·m | +15% Argon 60 (DT) |
| Transmission | |||
| Top speed declared | 18.6 mph · 30 km/h | 18.6–24.9 mph · 30–40 km/h | differs |
| Clutch declared | Dry LuK double clutch with 280 mm diameter | Pedal operated dry single plate clutch with 280.0 mm disc diameter | differs |
| Hydraulics & hitch | |||
| Hydraulic centre declared | Open centre | — | — |
| Hydraulic control declared | — | Load sensing | — |
| Pump flow declared | 11.3 gpm · 42.8 L/min | 12.4 gpm · 47.0 L/min | +10% Argon 60 (DT) |
| Pressure declared | 2,828 psi · 195 bar | 2,176 psi · 150 bar | +30% 5103 |
| Three-point lift at ends declared | 3,726 lb · 1,690 kg | 6,393 lb · 2,900 kg | +72% Argon 60 (DT) |
| Rear PTO speeds declared | 540/1000 rpm | 540/540E rpm | differs |
| Weight & dimensions | |||
| Unladen weight declared | 4,652–5,031 lb · 2,110–2,282 kg | 5,512 lb · 2,500 kg | differs |
| Maximum permissible mass declared | — | 10,141 lb · 4,600 kg | — |
| Wheelbase declared | 81.1 in · 2,060 mm | 80.9 in · 2,056 mm | — |
| Length declared | 137.4 in · 3,490 mm | 141.3 in · 3,590 mm | — |
| Width declared | 65.7 in · 1,670 mm | 70.1 in · 1,780 mm | +7% Argon 60 (DT) |
| Height declared | 93.7 in · 2,380 mm | 89.6 in · 2,275 mm | — |
| Ground clearance declared | 12.2 in · 310 mm | 14.0 in · 355 mm | +15% Argon 60 (DT) |
| Turning radius, braked declared | — | 10.0 ft · 3.05 m | — |
| Fuel tank declared | 72.0 qt · 68.1 L | 61.3 qt · 58.0 L | +17% 5103 |
John Deere 5103 sources
Source
- Source: OECD test report 2266, 2005
- Source: Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 5103”
SAME Argon 60 (DT) sources
Source
- Source: Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Argon 60”
- Source: Traktorenlexikon, “Lamborghini 564-60 DT A Crono”