John Deere 3020 or SAME Saturno 80 (DT)?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 3020 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Saturno 80 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The SAME Saturno 80 (DT) suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 21% (380 kg / 838 lb) more three-point lift.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 3020 | Saturno 80 (DT) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 55.2 kW (74.0 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 3020” | 56.6 kW (75.9 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Saturno 80 Synchro” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 3020 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Saturno 80 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 3020 and the Saturno 80 (DT). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 3020 and the Saturno 80 (DT). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 68.0 L/min (18.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 3020” | — | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the Saturno 80 (DT). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 1,800 kg (3,968 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 3020” | 2,180 kg (4,806 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Saturno 80 Synchro” | AheadThe SAME Saturno 80 (DT) has 21% more lift (380 kg / 838 lb) than the John Deere 3020 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 3,426 kg (7,553 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 3020” | 2,760 kg (6,085 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Saturno 80 Synchro” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The John Deere 3020 is 24% heavier (666 kg / 1,468 lb) than the SAME Saturno 80 (DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 5,020 kg (11,067 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 3020” | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the Saturno 80 (DT). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 8Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 3020” | 8 to 14Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Saturno 80 Synchro” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 3020 and the Saturno 80 (DT). |
| Which is faster on the road? | 20 km/h (12.4 mph) to 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 3020” | 25 km/h (15.5 mph) to 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Saturno 80 Synchro” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere 3020” | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Saturno 80 Synchro” | AheadThe John Deere 3020 offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the SAME Saturno 80 (DT) does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 3020 and the Saturno 80 (DT). |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere 3020” | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Saturno 80 Synchro” | AheadThe SAME Saturno 80 (DT) is available with four-wheel drive; the John Deere 3020 is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources). |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1964–1972 | 1972–1980 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The SAME Saturno 80 (DT) is newer: production began 8 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The SAME Saturno 80 (DT) has 21% more lift (380 kg / 838 lb) than the John Deere 3020 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The John Deere 3020 is 24% heavier (666 kg / 1,468 lb) than the SAME Saturno 80 (DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The John Deere 3020 offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the SAME Saturno 80 (DT) does not (as stated by the sources).
- The SAME Saturno 80 (DT) is available with four-wheel drive; the John Deere 3020 is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources).
- The SAME Saturno 80 (DT) is newer: production began 8 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 3020 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Saturno 80 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources