John Deere 2800 (A) or VALMET 6400-4?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 2800 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 6400-4 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The VALMET 6400-4 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 59% (25.3 L/min / 6.7 gpm) more hydraulic flow.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 2800 (A) | 6400-4 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 69.9 kW (93.7 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2800” | 69.9 kW (93.7 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 6400” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 2800 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 6400-4 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 2800 (A) and the 6400-4. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 2800 (A) and the 6400-4. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 42.9 L/min (11.3 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2800” | 68.2 L/min (18.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 6400” | AheadThe VALMET 6400-4 has 59% more hydraulic flow (25.3 L/min / 6.7 gpm) than the John Deere 2800 (A) (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 3,900 kg (8,598 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2800” | — | No figureNo call on three-point lift: no figure on record for the 6400-4. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 3,700 kg (8,157 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2800” | 4,200 kg (9,259 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 6400” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The VALMET 6400-4 is 14% heavier (500 kg / 1,102 lb) than the John Deere 2800 (A) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 7,500 kg (16,535 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2800” | 7,500 kg (16,535 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 6400” | EvenEven on maximum permissible mass (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 16 to 18Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2800” | 12 to 36Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 6400” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 2800 (A) and the 6400-4. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 35 km/h (21.7 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2800” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 6400” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2800” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 6400” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 2800 (A) and the 6400-4. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WD / 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2800” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 6400” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1993–1996 | 1991–2007 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The VALMET 6400-4 has 59% more hydraulic flow (25.3 L/min / 6.7 gpm) than the John Deere 2800 (A) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The VALMET 6400-4 is 14% heavier (500 kg / 1,102 lb) than the John Deere 2800 (A) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- Even on maximum permissible mass (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 2800 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 6400-4 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, three-point lift, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources