Hürlimann D 800 or SOMECA 1000 Super (TD)?
Which should you choose?
On performance, every comparable figure that differs favours the SOMECA 1000 Super (TD): three-point lift. It is also ahead on top speed, PTO speeds, PTO independence and drive.
- The SOMECA 1000 Super (TD) suits PTO-driven implements (mowers, balers, pumps) better on this data: offers 1000 rpm and an independent PTO.
- The SOMECA 1000 Super (TD) suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 28% (700 kg / 1,543 lb) more three-point lift.
- The SOMECA 1000 Super (TD) suits road haulage better on this data: 25% (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) more top speed.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | D 800 | 1000 Super (TD) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 66.2 kW (89 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann D 800” | 67.7 kW (90.7 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 1000 S” | EvenEven on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the D 800 and the 1000 Super (TD). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the D 800 and the 1000 Super (TD). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | — | 39.5 L/min (10.4 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 1000 S” | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the D 800. |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 2,500 kg (5,512 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann D 800” | 3,200 kg (7,055 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 1000 S” | AheadThe SOMECA 1000 Super (TD) has 28% more lift (700 kg / 1,543 lb) than the Hürlimann D 800 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 5,250 kg (11,574 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann D 800” | 3,620 kg (7,981 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 1000 S” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Hürlimann D 800 is 45% heavier (1,630 kg / 3,594 lb) than the SOMECA 1000 Super (TD) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the D 800 and the 1000 Super (TD). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 10Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann D 800” | 12 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 1000 S” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the D 800 and the 1000 Super (TD). |
| Which is faster on the road? | 20 km/h (12.4 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann D 800” | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 1000 S” | AheadThe SOMECA 1000 Super (TD) has 25% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the Hürlimann D 800 (both top speed forward, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann D 800” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Someca 1000 S” | AheadThe SOMECA 1000 Super (TD) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the Hürlimann D 800 does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | liveTraktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann D 800” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Someca 1000 S” | AheadThe SOMECA 1000 Super (TD) has an independent PTO; the Hürlimann D 800’s is live. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann D 800” | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Someca 1000 S” | AheadThe SOMECA 1000 Super (TD) is available with four-wheel drive; the Hürlimann D 800 is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources). |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1964–1970 | 1976–1979 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The SOMECA 1000 Super (TD) is newer: production began 12 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The SOMECA 1000 Super (TD) has 28% more lift (700 kg / 1,543 lb) than the Hürlimann D 800 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The Hürlimann D 800 is 45% heavier (1,630 kg / 3,594 lb) than the SOMECA 1000 Super (TD) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The SOMECA 1000 Super (TD) has 25% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the Hürlimann D 800 (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
- The SOMECA 1000 Super (TD) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the Hürlimann D 800 does not (as stated by the sources).
- The SOMECA 1000 Super (TD) has an independent PTO; the Hürlimann D 800’s is live.
- The SOMECA 1000 Super (TD) is available with four-wheel drive; the Hürlimann D 800 is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources).
- The SOMECA 1000 Super (TD) is newer: production began 12 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow, maximum permissible mass and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources