Ford 1700 (A) or SAME 25 DT?
Which should you choose?
On performance, every comparable figure that differs favours the Ford 1700 (A): hydraulic flow and three-point lift. On features, the SAME 25 DT is ahead on top speed and PTO speeds.
- The SAME 25 DT suits PTO-driven implements (mowers, balers, pumps) better on this data: offers 1000 rpm.
- The Ford 1700 (A) suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 34% (7.5 L/min / 2.0 gpm) more hydraulic flow and 44% (530 kg / 1,168 lb) more three-point lift.
- The SAME 25 DT suits road haulage better on this data: 25% (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) more top speed.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 1700 (A) | 25 DT | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 17.2 kW (23.1 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Ford 1700” | 15.8 kW (21.2 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Solaris 25” | EvenEven on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 1700 (A) and the 25 DT. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 1700 (A) and the 25 DT. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 29.5 L/min (7.8 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Ford 1700” | 22.0 L/min (5.8 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Solaris 25” | AheadThe Ford 1700 (A) has 34% more hydraulic flow (7.5 L/min / 2.0 gpm) than the SAME 25 DT (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 1,730 kg (3,814 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Ford 1700” | 1,200 kg (2,646 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Solaris 25” | AheadThe Ford 1700 (A) has 44% more lift (530 kg / 1,168 lb) than the SAME 25 DT (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 1,110 kg (2,447 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Ford 1700” | 1,005 kg (2,216 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Solaris 25” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Ford 1700 (A) is 10% heavier (105 kg / 231 lb) than the SAME 25 DT (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | 2,100 kg (4,630 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Solaris 25” | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 1700 (A). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12Traktorenlexikon, “Ford 1700” | 12Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Solaris 25” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 1700 (A) and the 25 DT. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 20 km/h (12.4 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Ford 1700” | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Solaris 25” | AheadThe SAME 25 DT has 25% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the Ford 1700 (A) (both top speed forward, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Ford 1700” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Solaris 25” | AheadThe SAME 25 DT offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the Ford 1700 (A) does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | independentTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Solaris 25” | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 1700 (A). |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WD / 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Ford 1700” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Solaris 25” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1979–1982 | 1992–2004 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The SAME 25 DT is newer: production began 13 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Ford 1700 (A) has 34% more hydraulic flow (7.5 L/min / 2.0 gpm) than the SAME 25 DT (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The Ford 1700 (A) has 44% more lift (530 kg / 1,168 lb) than the SAME 25 DT (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The Ford 1700 (A) is 10% heavier (105 kg / 231 lb) than the SAME 25 DT (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The SAME 25 DT has 25% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the Ford 1700 (A) (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
- The SAME 25 DT offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the Ford 1700 (A) does not (as stated by the sources).
- The SAME 25 DT is newer: production began 13 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources