Fiat TL 100 (DT) or John Deere 2800 (A)?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the TL 100 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 2800 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Fiat TL 100 (DT) suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 40% (17.1 L/min / 4.5 gpm) more hydraulic flow.
- The John Deere 2800 (A) suits road haulage better on this data: 25% (1,500 kg / 3,307 lb) more maximum permissible mass.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | TL 100 (DT) | 2800 (A) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 69.9 kW (93.7 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri TL100” | 69.9 kW (93.7 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2800” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the TL 100 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 2800 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the TL 100 (DT) and the 2800 (A). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the TL 100 (DT) and the 2800 (A). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 60.0 L/min (15.9 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri TL100” | 42.9 L/min (11.3 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2800” | AheadThe Fiat TL 100 (DT) has 40% more hydraulic flow (17.1 L/min / 4.5 gpm) than the John Deere 2800 (A) (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 3,880 kg (8,554 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri TL100” | 3,900 kg (8,598 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2800” | EvenEven on three-point lift (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 4,365 kg (9,623 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri TL100” | 3,700 kg (8,157 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2800” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Fiat TL 100 (DT) is 18% heavier (665 kg / 1,466 lb) than the John Deere 2800 (A) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 6,000 kg (13,228 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri TL100” | 7,500 kg (16,535 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2800” | AheadThe John Deere 2800 (A) has 25% higher maximum permissible mass (1,500 kg / 3,307 lb) than the Fiat TL 100 (DT) (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 20 to 24Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri TL100” | 16 to 18Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2800” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | YesTraktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri TL100” | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 2800 (A). |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri TL100” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 35 km/h (21.7 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2800” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/540E/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri TL100” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2800” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the TL 100 (DT) and the 2800 (A). |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri TL100” | 2WD / 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2800” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1998–2004 | 1993–1996 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Fiat TL 100 (DT) is newer: production began 5 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Fiat TL 100 (DT) has 40% more hydraulic flow (17.1 L/min / 4.5 gpm) than the John Deere 2800 (A) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The Fiat TL 100 (DT) is 18% heavier (665 kg / 1,466 lb) than the John Deere 2800 (A) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The John Deere 2800 (A) has 25% higher maximum permissible mass (1,500 kg / 3,307 lb) than the Fiat TL 100 (DT) (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source).
- The Fiat TL 100 (DT) is newer: production began 5 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on three-point lift (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the TL 100 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 2800 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources