Fiat 80-90 (DT) or VALMET 865-2/865?
Which should you choose?
On performance, every comparable figure that differs favours the VALMET 865-2/865: hydraulic flow. On features, the Fiat 80-90 (DT) is ahead on PTO speeds.
- The Fiat 80-90 (DT) suits PTO-driven implements (mowers, balers, pumps) better on this data: offers 1000 rpm.
- The VALMET 865-2/865 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 61% (21.5 L/min / 5.7 gpm) more hydraulic flow.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 80-90 (DT) | 865-2/865 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 52.6 kW (70.5 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 80-90/80-90 DT” | 52.0 kW (69.7 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 865” | EvenEven on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 80-90 (DT) and the 865-2/865. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 80-90 (DT) and the 865-2/865. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 35.5 L/min (9.4 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 80-90/80-90 DT” | 57.0 L/min (15.1 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 865” | AheadThe VALMET 865-2/865 has 61% more hydraulic flow (21.5 L/min / 5.7 gpm) than the Fiat 80-90 (DT) (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | — | 3,365 kg (7,419 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 865” | No figureNo call on three-point lift: no figure on record for the 80-90 (DT). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 3,100 kg (6,834 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 80-90/80-90 DT” | 3,190 kg (7,033 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 865” | EvenEven on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 5,300 kg (11,684 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 80-90/80-90 DT” | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 865-2/865. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12 to 24Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 80-90/80-90 DT” | 8 to 12Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 865” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 80-90 (DT) and the 865-2/865. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 80-90/80-90 DT” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 865” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 80-90/80-90 DT” | 540E/540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 865” | AheadThe Fiat 80-90 (DT) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the VALMET 865-2/865 does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 80-90/80-90 DT” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 865” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 80-90/80-90 DT” | 2WD / 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 865” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1984–1992 | 1996–1997 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The VALMET 865-2/865 is newer: production began 12 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The VALMET 865-2/865 has 61% more hydraulic flow (21.5 L/min / 5.7 gpm) than the Fiat 80-90 (DT) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The Fiat 80-90 (DT) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the VALMET 865-2/865 does not (as stated by the sources).
- The VALMET 865-2/865 is newer: production began 12 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call.
- Even on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, three-point lift, maximum permissible mass and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources