Fiat 715 (DT) or John Deere 830?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 715 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 830 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The John Deere 830 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 27% (7.2 L/min / 1.9 gpm) more hydraulic flow.
- The Fiat 715 (DT) suits road haulage better on this data: 20% (4.0 km/h / 2.5 mph) more top speed.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 715 (DT) | 830 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 49.3 kW (66.1 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 715/715 DT” | 51.9 kW (69.6 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere Modell 830” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 715 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 830 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 715 (DT) and the 830. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 715 (DT) and the 830. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 26.5 L/min (7.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 715/715 DT” | 33.7 L/min (8.9 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere Modell 830” | AheadThe John Deere 830 has 27% more hydraulic flow (7.2 L/min / 1.9 gpm) than the Fiat 715 (DT) (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 2,250 kg (4,960 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 715/715 DT” | — | No figureNo call on three-point lift: no figure on record for the 830. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 2,880 kg (6,349 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 715/715 DT” | 3,561 kg (7,851 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere Modell 830” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The John Deere 830 is 24% heavier (681 kg / 1,501 lb) than the Fiat 715 (DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 715 (DT) and the 830. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 14Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 715/715 DT” | 6Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere Modell 830” | AheadThe Fiat 715 (DT) has 133% more forward gears (8 gears) than the John Deere 830 (both forward gears, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 715 (DT) and the 830. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 24 km/h (14.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 715/715 DT” | 20.0 km/h (12.4 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere Modell 830” | AheadThe Fiat 715 (DT) has 20% more top speed (4.0 km/h / 2.5 mph) than the John Deere 830 (both top speed forward, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Fiat 715/715 DT” | 536 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere Modell 830” | No figureNo call on PTO speeds: no standard PTO speed stated for the 830. |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 715 (DT) and the 830. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Fiat 715/715 DT” | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere Modell 830” | AheadThe Fiat 715 (DT) is available with four-wheel drive; the John Deere 830 is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources). |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1966–1969 | 1958–1960 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Fiat 715 (DT) is newer: production began 8 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The John Deere 830 has 27% more hydraulic flow (7.2 L/min / 1.9 gpm) than the Fiat 715 (DT) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The John Deere 830 is 24% heavier (681 kg / 1,501 lb) than the Fiat 715 (DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Fiat 715 (DT) has 133% more forward gears (8 gears) than the John Deere 830 (both forward gears, as stated by the source).
- The Fiat 715 (DT) has 20% more top speed (4.0 km/h / 2.5 mph) than the John Deere 830 (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
- The Fiat 715 (DT) is available with four-wheel drive; the John Deere 830 is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources).
- The Fiat 715 (DT) is newer: production began 8 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 715 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 830 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, three-point lift, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range, PTO speeds and PTO independence.
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