Fiat 70-66 (DT) or International Harvester 785 (A)?
Which should you choose?
On performance, every comparable figure that differs favours the Fiat 70-66 (DT): three-point lift. It is also ahead on top speed.
- The Fiat 70-66 (DT) suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 39% (810 kg / 1,786 lb) more three-point lift.
- The Fiat 70-66 (DT) suits road haulage better on this data: 20% (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) more top speed.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 70-66 (DT) | 785 (A) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 45.4 kW (60.9 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 70-66/70-66 DT” | 45.6 kW (61.2 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “IHC 785 (XL)” | EvenEven on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 70-66 (DT) and the 785 (A). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 70-66 (DT) and the 785 (A). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | — | — | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the 70-66 (DT) and the 785 (A). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 2,900 kg (6,393 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 70-66/70-66 DT” | 2,090 kg (4,608 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “IHC 785 (XL)” | AheadThe Fiat 70-66 (DT) has 39% more lift (810 kg / 1,786 lb) than the International Harvester 785 (A) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 2,660 kg (5,864 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 70-66/70-66 DT” | 3,040 kg (6,702 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “IHC 785 (XL)” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The International Harvester 785 (A) is 14% heavier (380 kg / 838 lb) than the Fiat 70-66 (DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 4,600 kg (10,141 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 70-66/70-66 DT” | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 785 (A). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12 to 20Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 70-66/70-66 DT” | 8 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “IHC 785 (XL)” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 70-66 (DT) and the 785 (A). |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 70-66/70-66 DT” | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “IHC 785 (XL)” | AheadThe Fiat 70-66 (DT) has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the International Harvester 785 (A) (both top speed forward, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Fiat 70-66/70-66 DT” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “IHC 785 (XL)” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Fiat 70-66/70-66 DT” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “IHC 785 (XL)” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Fiat 70-66/70-66 DT” | 2WD / 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “IHC 785 (XL)” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1984–1991 | 1981–1990 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Fiat 70-66 (DT) has 39% more lift (810 kg / 1,786 lb) than the International Harvester 785 (A) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The International Harvester 785 (A) is 14% heavier (380 kg / 838 lb) than the Fiat 70-66 (DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Fiat 70-66 (DT) has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the International Harvester 785 (A) (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
- Even on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow, maximum permissible mass and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources