11 material differences · fewer than 12
Tractor oneFendt 817 Vario-TMS2003–2009No measured PTO figureTractor twoSAME Titan 1651998–2001No measured PTO figure
Which should you choose?
Read our verdict on the 817 Vario-TMS and the Titan 165 → It is generated from the rows below by a fixed, versioned rule set, and names the figure behind every call.
Field by field
11 material differences · 5 fields identical or within 5%, which is not counted as material
| Field | 817 Vario-TMS | Titan 165 | Gap |
|---|---|---|---|
| Engine | |||
| Engine power, claimed claimed | 162 hp | 161.7 hp | — |
| Engine declared | Deutz BF6M 2013 C | SAME 1000.6 WTI | differs |
| Displacement declared | 5.70 L | 6.00 L | — |
| Maximum torque declared | 575 lb·ft · 780 N·m | 448 lb·ft · 607 N·m | +29% 817 Vario-TMS |
| Transmission | |||
| Top speed declared | 31.1 mph · 50 km/h | 18.6–24.9 mph · 30–40 km/h | differs |
| Clutch declared | Multi-disc clutch | Electro-hydraulically operated wet multi-plate clutch | differs |
| Hydraulics & hitch | |||
| Hydraulic control declared | Load sensing | — | — |
| Pump flow declared | 29.1 gpm · 110.0 L/min | — | — |
| Pressure declared | 2,901 psi · 200 bar | 3,046 psi · 210 bar | — |
| Rear PTO speeds declared | 540 rpm / 750 rpm / 1000 rpm | 540/1000 rpm | differs |
| Weight & dimensions | |||
| Unladen weight declared | 14,661 lb · 6,650 kg | 12,853 lb · 5,830 kg | +14% 817 Vario-TMS |
| Maximum permissible mass declared | 27,558 lb · 12,500 kg | 18,739 lb · 8,500 kg | +47% 817 Vario-TMS |
| Wheelbase declared | 107.1 in · 2,720 mm | 112.2 in · 2,850 mm | — |
| Length declared | 185.0 in · 4,700 mm | 187.0 in · 4,750 mm | — |
| Width declared | 100.4 in · 2,550 mm | 92.9–109.4 in · 2,360–2,780 mm | differs |
| Ground clearance declared | 22.4 in · 570 mm | 20.3 in · 515 mm | +11% 817 Vario-TMS |
| Turning radius, braked declared | 16.7 ft · 5.10 m | 14.1 ft · 4.30 m | +19% 817 Vario-TMS |
| Fuel tank declared | 359.3 qt · 340 L | 380.4 qt · 360.0 L | +6% Titan 165 |
Height is not in this table. It is not one measurement: the sources measure it to different points — over the cab on some machines, over the steering wheel or the exhaust on others — and the same tractor measured two ways can differ by most of a metre. It appears here only when both machines' figures carry the point they were measured to and it is the same point, which is not the case for these two. Each machine's own page prints its height as its source gives it.
Fendt 817 Vario-TMS sources
- Source: Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt 817 Vario”
- Source: Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt Favorit 714 Vario”
SAME Titan 165 sources
- Source: Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 165”
- Source: Traktorenlexikon, “Lamborghini 150 DT A Racing”