DEUTZ-ALLIS 8050 or Renault Temis 650?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 8050 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Temis 650 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 8050 | Temis 650 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 113.3 kW (151.9 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8050” | 113.3 kW (151.9 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Témis 650X/Z” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 8050 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Temis 650 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 8050 and the Temis 650. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 8050 and the Temis 650. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 83.3 L/min (22.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8050” | — | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the Temis 650. |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | — | 8,850 kg (19,511 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Témis 650X/Z” | No figureNo call on three-point lift: no figure on record for the 8050. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 6,942 kg (15,304 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8050” | 5,885 kg (12,974 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Témis 650X/Z” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The DEUTZ-ALLIS 8050 is 18% heavier (1,057 kg / 2,330 lb) than the Renault Temis 650 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | 9,600 kg (21,164 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Témis 650X/Z” | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 8050. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12 to 20Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8050” | 16 to 24Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Témis 650X/Z” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 8050 and the Temis 650. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8050” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Témis 650X/Z” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8050” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Renault Témis 650X/Z” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8050” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Renault Témis 650X/Z” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8050” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Renault Témis 650X/Z”; OECD test report 1989, 2002 | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1985–1988 | 1999–2005 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Renault Temis 650 is newer: production began 14 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The DEUTZ-ALLIS 8050 is 18% heavier (1,057 kg / 2,330 lb) than the Renault Temis 650 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Renault Temis 650 is newer: production began 14 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 8050 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Temis 650 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow, three-point lift, maximum permissible mass and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources