DEUTZ-ALLIS 8010 or VALMET 1103/1103-4?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 8010 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 1103/1103-4 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The DEUTZ-ALLIS 8010 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 387% (135.3 L/min / 35.7 gpm) more hydraulic flow.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 8010 | 1103/1103-4 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 78.7 kW (105.5 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8010” | 78.7 kW (105.5 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 1103” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 8010 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 1103/1103-4 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 8010 and the 1103/1103-4. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 8010 and the 1103/1103-4. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 170.3 L/min (45.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8010” | 35.0 L/min (9.2 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 1103” | AheadThe DEUTZ-ALLIS 8010 has 387% more hydraulic flow (135.3 L/min / 35.7 gpm) than the VALMET 1103/1103-4 (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 3,030 kg (6,680 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8010” | 3,250 kg (7,165 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 1103” | Not comparableNot comparable on three-point lift: the 8010: lift 610 mm behind the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8010”); the 1103/1103-4: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 1103”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 5,729 kg (12,630 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8010” | 3,950 kg (8,708 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 1103” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The DEUTZ-ALLIS 8010 is 45% heavier (1,779 kg / 3,922 lb) than the VALMET 1103/1103-4 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 8010 and the 1103/1103-4. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12 to 20Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8010” | 16Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 1103” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 8010 and the 1103/1103-4. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8010” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 1103” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8010” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 1103” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8010” | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 1103/1103-4. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8010” | 2WD / 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 1103” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1985–1988 | 1979–1980 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The DEUTZ-ALLIS 8010 is newer: production began 6 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The DEUTZ-ALLIS 8010 has 387% more hydraulic flow (135.3 L/min / 35.7 gpm) than the VALMET 1103/1103-4 (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The DEUTZ-ALLIS 8010 is 45% heavier (1,779 kg / 3,922 lb) than the VALMET 1103/1103-4 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The DEUTZ-ALLIS 8010 is newer: production began 6 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 8010 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 1103/1103-4 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- Not comparable on three-point lift: the 8010: lift 610 mm behind the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8010”); the 1103/1103-4: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 1103”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources