9 material differences · fewer than 12

Tractor oneDavid Brown 12121971–1976No measured PTO figureTractor twoRenault 385 / R 781963–1967No measured PTO figure

Which should you choose?

Read our verdict on the 1212 and the 385 / R 78 → It is generated from the rows below by a fixed, versioned rule set, and names the figure behind every call.

Field by field

9 material differences · 5 fields identical or within 5%, which is not counted as material

David Brown 1212 and Renault 385 / R 78, field by field
Field1212385 / R 78Gap
Engine
Engine power, claimed claimed71 hp54.3 hp+31% 1212
Engine declaredDAVID BROWN AD 4/55 ARENAULT-ALFA 591-30differs
Displacement declared3.60 L3.02 L+19% 1212
Maximum torque declared182 lb·ft · 247 N·m130 lb·ft · 177 N·m+40% 1212
Transmission
Top speed declared15.5–18.6 mph · 25–30 km/h15.5 mph · 25 km/hdiffers
Clutch declaredDry double clutchdry Borg-Beck double clutch with two-stage pedal actuationdiffers
Hydraulics & hitch
Pump flow declared8.7 gpm · 33.0 L/min6.9 gpm · 26.0 L/min+27% 1212
Rear PTO speeds declared540 rpm540 rpm—
Weight & dimensions
Unladen weight declared5,997 lb · 2,720 kg5,818 lb · 2,639 kg—
Wheelbase declared88.5 in · 2,249 mm87.6 in · 2,225 mm—
Length declared133.3 in · 3,386 mm153.0 in · 3,885 mm+15% 385 / R 78
Width declared69.5 in · 1,765 mm74.8–94.5 in · 1,900–2,400 mmdiffers
Ground clearance declared21.3 in · 540 mm16.5 in · 420 mm+29% 1212
Turning radius, braked declared11.7 ft · 3.58 m12.1 ft · 3.70 m—
Fuel tank declared86.3 qt · 81.7 L84.5 qt · 80.0 L—

Height is not in this table. It is not one measurement: the sources measure it to different points — over the cab on some machines, over the steering wheel or the exhaust on others — and the same tractor measured two ways can differ by most of a metre. It appears here only when both machines' figures carry the point they were measured to and it is the same point, which is not the case for these two. Each machine's own page prints its height as its source gives it.

David Brown 1212 sources

Source
  • Source: Traktorenlexikon, “David Brown 1212”
  • Source: Traktorenlexikon, “David Brown 1200”

Renault 385 / R 78 sources

Source
  • Source: Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 385/R 78”
  • Source: Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Master 2 R78”