Case-IH 385 (DT) or Fiat 470 (V/DT)?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 385 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 470 (V/DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Case-IH 385 (DT) suits road haulage better on this data: 20% (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) more top speed.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 385 (DT) | 470 (V/DT) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 33.8 kW (45.3 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Case-IH 385” | 33.8 kW (45.3 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 470 V/470 V/DT” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 385 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 470 (V/DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 385 (DT) and the 470 (V/DT). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 385 (DT) and the 470 (V/DT). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | — | 21.2 L/min (5.6 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 470 V/470 V/DT” | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the 385 (DT). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 1,560 kg (3,439 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Case-IH 385” | 700 kg (1,543 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 470 V/470 V/DT” | Not comparableNot comparable on three-point lift: the 385 (DT): lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Case-IH 385”); the 470 (V/DT): lift through the full range 610 mm behind the ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 470 V/470 V/DT”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 2,582 kg (5,692 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Case-IH 385” | 1,415 kg (3,120 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 470 V/470 V/DT” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Case-IH 385 (DT) is 82% heavier (1,167 kg / 2,573 lb) than the Fiat 470 (V/DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 385 (DT) and the 470 (V/DT). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 8 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “Case-IH 385” | 6 to 9Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 470 V/470 V/DT” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 385 (DT) and the 470 (V/DT). |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Case-IH 385” | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 470 V/470 V/DT” | AheadThe Case-IH 385 (DT) has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the Fiat 470 (V/DT) (both top speed forward, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Case-IH 385” | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Fiat 470 V/470 V/DT” | AheadThe Case-IH 385 (DT) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the Fiat 470 (V/DT) does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Case-IH 385” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Fiat 470 V/470 V/DT” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Case-IH 385” | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Fiat 470 V/470 V/DT” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1985–1990 | 1980 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Case-IH 385 (DT) is newer: production began 5 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Case-IH 385 (DT) is 82% heavier (1,167 kg / 2,573 lb) than the Fiat 470 (V/DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Case-IH 385 (DT) has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the Fiat 470 (V/DT) (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
- The Case-IH 385 (DT) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the Fiat 470 (V/DT) does not (as stated by the sources).
- The Case-IH 385 (DT) is newer: production began 5 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 385 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 470 (V/DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- Not comparable on three-point lift: the 385 (DT): lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Case-IH 385”); the 470 (V/DT): lift through the full range 610 mm behind the ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 470 V/470 V/DT”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow, maximum permissible mass and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources