ALLIS-CHALMERS 185 or Fiat 750 (DT)?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 185 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 750 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 185 | 750 (DT) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 55.2 kW (74.0 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 185” | 55.2 kW (74.0 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 750/750 DT” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 185 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 750 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 185 and the 750 (DT). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 185 and the 750 (DT). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 75.7 L/min (20.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 185” | 27.5 L/min (7.3 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 750/750 DT” | AheadThe ALLIS-CHALMERS 185 has 175% more hydraulic flow (48.2 L/min / 12.7 gpm) than the Fiat 750 (DT) (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 1,134 kg (2,500 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 185” | 2,250 kg (4,960 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 750/750 DT” | AheadThe Fiat 750 (DT) has 98% more lift (1,116 kg / 2,460 lb) than the ALLIS-CHALMERS 185 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 3,946 kg (8,699 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 185” | 3,045 kg (6,713 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 750/750 DT” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The ALLIS-CHALMERS 185 is 30% heavier (901 kg / 1,986 lb) than the Fiat 750 (DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 185 and the 750 (DT). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 8Traktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 185” | 7 to 14Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 750/750 DT” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 185 and the 750 (DT). |
| Which is faster on the road? | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 185” | 24 km/h (14.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 750/750 DT” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 185” | 540 rpm / 1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Fiat 750/750 DT” | AheadThe Fiat 750 (DT) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the ALLIS-CHALMERS 185 does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Fiat 750/750 DT” | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 185. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 185” | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Fiat 750/750 DT” | AheadThe Fiat 750 (DT) is available with four-wheel drive; the ALLIS-CHALMERS 185 is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources). |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1970–1981 | 1968–1971 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The ALLIS-CHALMERS 185 has 175% more hydraulic flow (48.2 L/min / 12.7 gpm) than the Fiat 750 (DT) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The Fiat 750 (DT) has 98% more lift (1,116 kg / 2,460 lb) than the ALLIS-CHALMERS 185 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The ALLIS-CHALMERS 185 is 30% heavier (901 kg / 1,986 lb) than the Fiat 750 (DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Fiat 750 (DT) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the ALLIS-CHALMERS 185 does not (as stated by the sources).
- The Fiat 750 (DT) is available with four-wheel drive; the ALLIS-CHALMERS 185 is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources).
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 185 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 750 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources