AGCO-ALLIS 9690 or Agco RT-165 A?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 9690 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the RT-165 A has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Agco RT-165 A suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 41% (34.1 L/min / 9.0 gpm) more hydraulic flow and 78% (2,891 kg / 6,374 lb) more three-point lift.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 9690 | RT-165 A | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 145.6 kW (195.3 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 9690” | 144.9 kW (194.3 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO RT 165 A” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 9690 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the RT-165 A has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 9690 and the RT-165 A. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 9690 and the RT-165 A. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 82.5 L/min (21.8 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 9690” | 116.6 L/min (30.8 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO RT 165 A” | AheadThe Agco RT-165 A has 41% more hydraulic flow (34.1 L/min / 9.0 gpm) than the AGCO-ALLIS 9690 (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 3,707 kg (8,173 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 9690” | 6,598 kg (14,546 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO RT 165 A” | AheadThe Agco RT-165 A has 78% more lift (2,891 kg / 6,374 lb) than the AGCO-ALLIS 9690 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 8,210 kg (18,100 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 9690” | 7,920 kg (17,461 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO RT 165 A” | EvenEven on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 9690 and the RT-165 A. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 18 forwardTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 9690” | Stepless (CVT)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO RT 165 A” | DifferTransmissions differ in kind: the AGCO-ALLIS 9690 has 18 forward gears and the Agco RT-165 A is stepless (CVT) — not called. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 9690 and the RT-165 A. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 9690” | 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO RT 165 A” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 9690” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO RT 165 A” | AheadThe Agco RT-165 A offers 540 rpm at the PTO, which the AGCO-ALLIS 9690 does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 9690” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO RT 165 A” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 9690” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO RT 165 A” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1994–1995 | 2007–2011 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Agco RT-165 A is newer: production began 13 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Agco RT-165 A has 41% more hydraulic flow (34.1 L/min / 9.0 gpm) than the AGCO-ALLIS 9690 (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The Agco RT-165 A has 78% more lift (2,891 kg / 6,374 lb) than the AGCO-ALLIS 9690 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The Agco RT-165 A offers 540 rpm at the PTO, which the AGCO-ALLIS 9690 does not (as stated by the sources).
- The Agco RT-165 A is newer: production began 13 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Transmissions differ in kind: the AGCO-ALLIS 9690 has 18 forward gears and the Agco RT-165 A is stepless (CVT) — not called.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 9690 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the RT-165 A has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources