AGCO-ALLIS 9170 or DEUTZ-ALLIS 8070?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 9170 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 8070 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 9170 | 8070 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 128 kW (172 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 9170” | 126.5 kW (169.6 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8070” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 9170 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 8070 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 9170 and the 8070. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 9170 and the 8070. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 86.9 L/min (23.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 9170” | 83.3 L/min (22.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8070” | EvenEven on hydraulic flow (both pump flow, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 3,460 kg (7,628 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 9170” | 3,720 kg (8,201 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8070” | Not comparableNot comparable on three-point lift: the 9170: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 9170”); the 8070: lift 610 mm behind the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8070”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 7,094 kg (15,640 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 9170” | 7,643 kg (16,850 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8070” | EvenEven on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 9170 and the 8070. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 18Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 9170” | 12 to 20Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8070” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 9170 and the 8070. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 9170” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8070” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 9170” | 1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8070” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 9170” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8070” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 9170” | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8070” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1991–1992 | 1985–1988 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The AGCO-ALLIS 9170 is newer: production began 6 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The AGCO-ALLIS 9170 is newer: production began 6 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on hydraulic flow (both pump flow, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (1000 rpm).
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 9170 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 8070 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- Not comparable on three-point lift: the 9170: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 9170”); the 8070: lift 610 mm behind the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8070”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources