AGCO-ALLIS 8785 or DEUTZ-ALLIS 7110?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 8785 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 7110 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 8785 | 7110 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 82.4 kW (110.5 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8785” | 82.4 kW (110.5 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 7110” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 8785 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 7110 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 8785 and the 7110. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 8785 and the 7110. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 109.0 L/min (28.8 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8785” | 90.8 L/min (24.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 7110” | AheadThe AGCO-ALLIS 8785 has 20% more hydraulic flow (18.2 L/min / 4.8 gpm) than the DEUTZ-ALLIS 7110 (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 4,270 kg (9,414 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8785” | 5,200 kg (11,464 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 7110” | AheadThe DEUTZ-ALLIS 7110 has 22% more lift (930 kg / 2,050 lb) than the AGCO-ALLIS 8785 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 4,917 kg (10,840 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8785” | 4,400 kg (9,700 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 7110” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The AGCO-ALLIS 8785 is 12% heavier (517 kg / 1,140 lb) than the DEUTZ-ALLIS 7110 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 8785 and the 7110. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 32Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8785” | 15 to 20Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 7110” | AheadThe AGCO-ALLIS 8785 has 60% more forward gears (12 gears) than the DEUTZ-ALLIS 7110 (both forward gears, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 8785 and the 7110. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8785” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 7110” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8785” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 7110” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8785” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 7110” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8785” | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 7110” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1998–1999 | 1986–1989 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The AGCO-ALLIS 8785 is newer: production began 12 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The AGCO-ALLIS 8785 has 20% more hydraulic flow (18.2 L/min / 4.8 gpm) than the DEUTZ-ALLIS 7110 (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The DEUTZ-ALLIS 7110 has 22% more lift (930 kg / 2,050 lb) than the AGCO-ALLIS 8785 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The AGCO-ALLIS 8785 is 12% heavier (517 kg / 1,140 lb) than the DEUTZ-ALLIS 7110 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The AGCO-ALLIS 8785 has 60% more forward gears (12 gears) than the DEUTZ-ALLIS 7110 (both forward gears, as stated by the source).
- The AGCO-ALLIS 8785 is newer: production began 12 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 8785 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 7110 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources