AGCO-ALLIS 8745 or Hürlimann H-468.4 A?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 8745 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the H-468.4 A has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The AGCO-ALLIS 8745 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 84% (30.2 L/min / 8.0 gpm) more hydraulic flow.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 8745 | H-468.4 A | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 51.5 kW (69.1 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8745” | 51.5 kW (69.1 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann H 468.4 Club” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 8745 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the H-468.4 A has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 8745 and the H-468.4 A. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 8745 and the H-468.4 A. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 66.2 L/min (17.5 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8745” | 36.0 L/min (9.5 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann H 468.4 Club” | AheadThe AGCO-ALLIS 8745 has 84% more hydraulic flow (30.2 L/min / 8.0 gpm) than the Hürlimann H-468.4A (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 2,600 kg (5,732 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8745” | 2,899 kg (6,391 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann H 468.4 Club” | Not comparableNot comparable on three-point lift: the 8745: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8745”); the H-468.4 A: lift through the full range at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann H 468.4 Club”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 3,615 kg (7,970 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8745” | 3,070 kg (6,768 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann H 468.4 Club” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The AGCO-ALLIS 8745 is 18% heavier (545 kg / 1,202 lb) than the Hürlimann H-468.4A (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 8745 and the H-468.4 A. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8745” | 24Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann H 468.4 Club” | AheadThe Hürlimann H-468.4A has 100% more forward gears (12 gears) than the AGCO-ALLIS 8745 (both forward gears, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 8745 and the H-468.4 A. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8745” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann H 468.4 Club” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8745” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann H 468.4 Club” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8745” | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the H-468.4 A. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8745” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann H 468.4 Club” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1998–1999 | 1998–2003 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The AGCO-ALLIS 8745 has 84% more hydraulic flow (30.2 L/min / 8.0 gpm) than the Hürlimann H-468.4A (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The AGCO-ALLIS 8745 is 18% heavier (545 kg / 1,202 lb) than the Hürlimann H-468.4A (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Hürlimann H-468.4A has 100% more forward gears (12 gears) than the AGCO-ALLIS 8745 (both forward gears, as stated by the source).
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 8745 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the H-468.4 A has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- Not comparable on three-point lift: the 8745: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8745”); the H-468.4 A: lift through the full range at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann H 468.4 Club”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources