AGCO-ALLIS 8745 or Deutz-Fahr 70 (F)?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 8745 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 70 (F) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The AGCO-ALLIS 8745 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 98% (32.7 L/min / 8.6 gpm) more hydraulic flow.
- The Deutz-Fahr 70 (F) suits road haulage better on this data: 33% (10.0 km/h / 6.2 mph) more top speed.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 8745 | 70 (F) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 51.5 kW (69.1 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8745” | 51.5 kW (69.1 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrolux 70” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 8745 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 70 (F) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 8745 and the 70 (F). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 8745 and the 70 (F). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 66.2 L/min (17.5 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8745” | 33.5 L/min (8.8 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrolux 70” | AheadThe AGCO-ALLIS 8745 has 98% more hydraulic flow (32.7 L/min / 8.6 gpm) than the Deutz-Fahr 70 (F) (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 2,600 kg (5,732 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8745” | — | No figureNo call on three-point lift: no figure on record for the 70 (F). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 3,615 kg (7,970 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8745” | 2,320 kg (5,115 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrolux 70” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The AGCO-ALLIS 8745 is 56% heavier (1,295 kg / 2,855 lb) than the Deutz-Fahr 70 (F) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 8745 and the 70 (F). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8745” | 16Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrolux 70” | AheadThe Deutz-Fahr 70 (F) has 33% more forward gears (4 gears) than the AGCO-ALLIS 8745 (both forward gears, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 8745 and the 70 (F). |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8745” | 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrolux 70” | AheadThe Deutz-Fahr 70 (F) has 33% more top speed (10.0 km/h / 6.2 mph) than the AGCO-ALLIS 8745 (both top speed forward, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8745” | 540 rpm / 1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrolux 70” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8745” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrolux 70” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8745” | 2WD / 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrolux 70” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1998–1999 | 2001–2005 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The AGCO-ALLIS 8745 has 98% more hydraulic flow (32.7 L/min / 8.6 gpm) than the Deutz-Fahr 70 (F) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The AGCO-ALLIS 8745 is 56% heavier (1,295 kg / 2,855 lb) than the Deutz-Fahr 70 (F) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Deutz-Fahr 70 (F) has 33% more forward gears (4 gears) than the AGCO-ALLIS 8745 (both forward gears, as stated by the source).
- The Deutz-Fahr 70 (F) has 33% more top speed (10.0 km/h / 6.2 mph) than the AGCO-ALLIS 8745 (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 8745 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 70 (F) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, three-point lift, maximum permissible mass and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources