AGCO-ALLIS 7650 or Fendt 815 Vario / TMS?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 7650 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 815 Vario / TMS has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Fendt 815 Vario / TMS suits road haulage better on this data: 47% (4,000 kg / 8,818 lb) more maximum permissible mass and 67% (20.0 km/h / 12.4 mph) more top speed.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 7650 | 815 Vario / TMS | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 109.6 kW (147.0 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 7650” | 110 kW (148 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt 815 Vario” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 7650 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 815 Vario / TMS has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 7650 and the 815 Vario / TMS. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 7650 and the 815 Vario / TMS. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | — | 110.0 L/min (29.1 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt 815 Vario” | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the 7650. |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 4,409 kg (9,720 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 7650” | 9,255 kg (20,404 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt 815 Vario” | Not comparableNot comparable on three-point lift: the 7650: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 7650”); the 815 Vario / TMS: lift at an unstated point, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt 815 Vario”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 5,700 kg (12,566 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 7650” | 6,650 kg (14,661 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt 815 Vario” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Fendt 815 Vario / TMS is 17% heavier (950 kg / 2,094 lb) than the AGCO-ALLIS 7650 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 8,500 kg (18,739 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 7650” | 12,500 kg (27,558 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt 815 Vario” | AheadThe Fendt 815 Vario / TMS has 47% higher maximum permissible mass (4,000 kg / 8,818 lb) than the AGCO-ALLIS 7650 (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 24 forwardTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 7650” | Stepless (CVT)Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt 815 Vario” | DifferTransmissions differ in kind: the AGCO-ALLIS 7650 has 24 forward gears and the Fendt 815 Vario / TMS is stepless (CVT) — not called. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 7650 and the 815 Vario / TMS. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 7650” | 50 km/h (31.1 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt 815 Vario” | AheadThe Fendt 815 Vario / TMS has 67% more top speed (20.0 km/h / 12.4 mph) than the AGCO-ALLIS 7650 (both top speed forward, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 7650” | 540/750/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Fendt 815 Vario” | AheadThe Fendt 815 Vario / TMS offers 750 rpm at the PTO, which the AGCO-ALLIS 7650 does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 7650” | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 815 Vario / TMS. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 7650” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Fendt 815 Vario” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1991–1994 | 2003–2009 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Fendt 815 Vario / TMS is newer: production began 12 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Fendt 815 Vario / TMS is 17% heavier (950 kg / 2,094 lb) than the AGCO-ALLIS 7650 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Fendt 815 Vario / TMS has 47% higher maximum permissible mass (4,000 kg / 8,818 lb) than the AGCO-ALLIS 7650 (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source).
- The Fendt 815 Vario / TMS has 67% more top speed (20.0 km/h / 12.4 mph) than the AGCO-ALLIS 7650 (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
- The Fendt 815 Vario / TMS offers 750 rpm at the PTO, which the AGCO-ALLIS 7650 does not (as stated by the sources).
- The Fendt 815 Vario / TMS is newer: production began 12 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Transmissions differ in kind: the AGCO-ALLIS 7650 has 24 forward gears and the Fendt 815 Vario / TMS is stepless (CVT) — not called.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 7650 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 815 Vario / TMS has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- Not comparable on three-point lift: the 7650: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 7650”); the 815 Vario / TMS: lift at an unstated point, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt 815 Vario”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources