AGCO-ALLIS 5650 or VALMET 205/205-4?

Which should you choose?

The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 5650 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 205/205-4 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.

  • The VALMET 205/205-4 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 18% (6.0 L/min / 1.6 gpm) more hydraulic flow.

Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.

What decides it, question by question?

Buyer questions for AGCO-ALLIS 5650 and VALMET 205/205-4, with the call on each
Question5650205/205-4Call
Which puts more power through the PTO shaft?35.3 kW (47.3 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 5650”36 kW (48 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 205”Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 5650 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 205/205-4 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft?——No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 5650 and the 205/205-4.
Which pulls harder at the drawbar?——No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 5650 and the 205/205-4.
Which pumps more oil for implements?33.0 L/min (8.7 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 5650”39.0 L/min (10.3 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 205”AheadThe VALMET 205/205-4 has 18% more hydraulic flow (6.0 L/min / 1.6 gpm) than the AGCO-ALLIS 5650 (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
Which lifts more on the three-point hitch?1,888 kg (4,162 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 5650”2,500 kg (5,512 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 205”Not comparableNot comparable on three-point lift: the 5650: lift through the full range 610 mm behind the ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 5650”); the 205/205-4: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 205”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition.
Which is heavier, for traction?2,055 kg (4,530 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 5650”2,710 kg (5,975 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 205”Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The VALMET 205/205-4 is 32% heavier (655 kg / 1,444 lb) than the AGCO-ALLIS 5650 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
Which may carry more ballast and load?——No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 5650 and the 205/205-4.
Which has the wider choice of gears?12 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 5650”8Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 205”AheadThe AGCO-ALLIS 5650 has 50% more forward gears (4 gears) than the VALMET 205/205-4 (both forward gears, as stated by the source).
Which offers a creeper range?——No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 5650 and the 205/205-4.
Which is faster on the road?30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 5650”30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 205”EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
Which offers more PTO speeds?540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 5650”540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 205”AheadThe AGCO-ALLIS 5650 offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the VALMET 205/205-4 does not (as stated by the sources).
Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive?independentTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 5650”independentTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 205”EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
Which drives on both axles?Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 5650”Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 205”EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
Which is newer, and what about parts?1994–19991989–1991Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The AGCO-ALLIS 5650 is newer: production began 5 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.

What does this mean in plain words?

  • The VALMET 205/205-4 has 18% more hydraulic flow (6.0 L/min / 1.6 gpm) than the AGCO-ALLIS 5650 (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
  • The VALMET 205/205-4 is 32% heavier (655 kg / 1,444 lb) than the AGCO-ALLIS 5650 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
  • The AGCO-ALLIS 5650 has 50% more forward gears (4 gears) than the VALMET 205/205-4 (both forward gears, as stated by the source).
  • The AGCO-ALLIS 5650 offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the VALMET 205/205-4 does not (as stated by the sources).
  • The AGCO-ALLIS 5650 is newer: production began 5 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
  • Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
  • Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
  • Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
  • Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 5650 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 205/205-4 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
  • Not comparable on three-point lift: the 5650: lift through the full range 610 mm behind the ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 5650”); the 205/205-4: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 205”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition.
  • No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass and a creeper range.

← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources