AGCO-ALLIS 5650 or VALMET 205/205-4?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 5650 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 205/205-4 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The VALMET 205/205-4 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 18% (6.0 L/min / 1.6 gpm) more hydraulic flow.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 5650 | 205/205-4 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 35.3 kW (47.3 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 5650” | 36 kW (48 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 205” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 5650 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 205/205-4 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 5650 and the 205/205-4. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 5650 and the 205/205-4. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 33.0 L/min (8.7 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 5650” | 39.0 L/min (10.3 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 205” | AheadThe VALMET 205/205-4 has 18% more hydraulic flow (6.0 L/min / 1.6 gpm) than the AGCO-ALLIS 5650 (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 1,888 kg (4,162 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 5650” | 2,500 kg (5,512 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 205” | Not comparableNot comparable on three-point lift: the 5650: lift through the full range 610 mm behind the ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 5650”); the 205/205-4: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 205”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 2,055 kg (4,530 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 5650” | 2,710 kg (5,975 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 205” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The VALMET 205/205-4 is 32% heavier (655 kg / 1,444 lb) than the AGCO-ALLIS 5650 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 5650 and the 205/205-4. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 5650” | 8Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 205” | AheadThe AGCO-ALLIS 5650 has 50% more forward gears (4 gears) than the VALMET 205/205-4 (both forward gears, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 5650 and the 205/205-4. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 5650” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 205” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 5650” | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 205” | AheadThe AGCO-ALLIS 5650 offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the VALMET 205/205-4 does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 5650” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 205” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 5650” | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 205” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1994–1999 | 1989–1991 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The AGCO-ALLIS 5650 is newer: production began 5 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The VALMET 205/205-4 has 18% more hydraulic flow (6.0 L/min / 1.6 gpm) than the AGCO-ALLIS 5650 (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The VALMET 205/205-4 is 32% heavier (655 kg / 1,444 lb) than the AGCO-ALLIS 5650 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The AGCO-ALLIS 5650 has 50% more forward gears (4 gears) than the VALMET 205/205-4 (both forward gears, as stated by the source).
- The AGCO-ALLIS 5650 offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the VALMET 205/205-4 does not (as stated by the sources).
- The AGCO-ALLIS 5650 is newer: production began 5 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 5650 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 205/205-4 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- Not comparable on three-point lift: the 5650: lift through the full range 610 mm behind the ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 5650”); the 205/205-4: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 205”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources