Steyr 870 (a) or URSUS C-385 (Ursus)?
Which should you choose?
On performance, every comparable figure that differs favours the Steyr 870 (a): hydraulic flow and three-point lift.
- The Steyr 870 (a) suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 16% (5.0 L/min / 1.3 gpm) more hydraulic flow and 23% (550 kg / 1,213 lb) more three-point lift.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “similar machines”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 870 (a) | C-385 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 49.3 kW (66.1 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Steyr 870” | 49.4 kW (66.3 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus C-385” | EvenEven on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 870 (a) and the C-385. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 870 (a) and the C-385. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 37.0 L/min (9.8 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Steyr 870” | 32.0 L/min (8.5 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus C-385” | AheadThe Steyr 870 (a) has 16% more hydraulic flow (5.0 L/min / 1.3 gpm) than the URSUS C-385 (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 2,900 kg (6,393 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Steyr 870” | 2,350 kg (5,181 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus C-385” | AheadThe Steyr 870 (a) has 23% more lift (550 kg / 1,213 lb) than the URSUS C-385 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 2,930 kg (6,460 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Steyr 870” | 3,525 kg (7,771 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus C-385” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The URSUS C-385 is 20% heavier (595 kg / 1,312 lb) than the Steyr 870 (a) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 870 (a) and the C-385. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “Steyr 870” | 16Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus C-385” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 870 (a) and the C-385. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 25 km/h (15.5 mph) to 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Steyr 870” | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus C-385” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Steyr 870” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Ursus C-385” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | liveTraktorenlexikon, “Steyr 870” | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the C-385. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Steyr 870” | 2WD / 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Ursus C-385”; Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus C-385A” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1971–1975 | 1969–1983 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Steyr 870 (a) has 16% more hydraulic flow (5.0 L/min / 1.3 gpm) than the URSUS C-385 (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The Steyr 870 (a) has 23% more lift (550 kg / 1,213 lb) than the URSUS C-385 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The URSUS C-385 is 20% heavier (595 kg / 1,312 lb) than the Steyr 870 (a) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- Even on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources