Steyr 8170 a or URSUS 1.604?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 8170 a has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 1.604 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 8170 a | 1.604 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 110.4 kW (148.0 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8170” | 110.3 kW (147.9 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus 1604” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 8170 a has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 1.604 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 8170 a and the 1.604. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 8170 a and the 1.604. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 42.0 L/min (11.1 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8170” | — | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the 1.604. |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 6,540 kg (14,418 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8170” | 5,323 kg (11,735 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus 1604” | Not comparableNot comparable on three-point lift: the 8170 a: lift at an unstated point, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8170”); the 1.604: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus 1604”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 6,024 kg (13,281 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8170” | 4,910 kg (10,825 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus 1604” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Steyr 8170a is 23% heavier (1,114 kg / 2,456 lb) than the URSUS 1.604 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 8,000 kg (17,637 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8170” | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 1.604. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12 to 36Traktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8170” | 12Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus 1604” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 8170 a and the 1.604. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 25 km/h (15.5 mph) to 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8170” | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus 1604” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8170” | 1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Ursus 1604” | AheadThe Steyr 8170a offers 540 rpm at the PTO, which the URSUS 1.604 does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8170” | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 1.604. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8170” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Ursus 1604” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1980–1986 | 1978–1984 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Steyr 8170a is 23% heavier (1,114 kg / 2,456 lb) than the URSUS 1.604 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Steyr 8170a offers 540 rpm at the PTO, which the URSUS 1.604 does not (as stated by the sources).
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 8170 a has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 1.604 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- Not comparable on three-point lift: the 8170 a: lift at an unstated point, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8170”); the 1.604: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus 1604”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources