Steyr 8165 a or URSUS 1.604?

Which should you choose?

The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 8165 a has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 1.604 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.

  • The Steyr 8165a suits road haulage better on this data: 20% (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) more top speed.

Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.

What decides it, question by question?

Buyer questions for Steyr 8165 a and URSUS 1.604, with the call on each
Question8165 a1.604Call
Which puts more power through the PTO shaft?110.4 kW (148.0 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8165”110.3 kW (147.9 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus 1604”Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 8165 a has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 1.604 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft?——No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 8165 a and the 1.604.
Which pulls harder at the drawbar?——No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 8165 a and the 1.604.
Which pumps more oil for implements?50.2 L/min (13.3 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8165”—No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the 1.604.
Which lifts more on the three-point hitch?6,020 kg (13,272 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8165”5,323 kg (11,735 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus 1604”Not comparableNot comparable on three-point lift: the 8165 a: lift through the full range at an unstated point, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8165”); the 1.604: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus 1604”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition.
Which is heavier, for traction?5,575 kg (12,291 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8165”4,910 kg (10,825 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus 1604”Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Steyr 8165a is 14% heavier (665 kg / 1,466 lb) than the URSUS 1.604 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
Which may carry more ballast and load?8,500 kg (18,739 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8165”—No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 1.604.
Which has the wider choice of gears?12 to 36Traktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8165”12Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus 1604”EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
Which offers a creeper range?——No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 8165 a and the 1.604.
Which is faster on the road?30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8165”25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus 1604”AheadThe Steyr 8165a has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the URSUS 1.604 (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
Which offers more PTO speeds?1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8165”1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Ursus 1604”EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (1000 rpm).
Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive?independentTraktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8165”—No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 1.604.
Which drives on both axles?4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8165”4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Ursus 1604”EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
Which is newer, and what about parts?1986–19931978–1984Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Steyr 8165a is newer: production began 8 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.

What does this mean in plain words?

  • The Steyr 8165a is 14% heavier (665 kg / 1,466 lb) than the URSUS 1.604 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
  • The Steyr 8165a has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the URSUS 1.604 (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
  • The Steyr 8165a is newer: production began 8 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
  • Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
  • Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (1000 rpm).
  • Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
  • Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 8165 a has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 1.604 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
  • Not comparable on three-point lift: the 8165 a: lift through the full range at an unstated point, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8165”); the 1.604: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus 1604”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition.
  • No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.

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