SOMECA 850 (TD) or VALMET 705/705-4?

Which should you choose?

On performance, every comparable figure that differs favours the VALMET 705/705-4: hydraulic flow. It is also ahead on top speed.

  • The VALMET 705/705-4 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 26% (10.0 L/min / 2.6 gpm) more hydraulic flow.
  • The VALMET 705/705-4 suits road haulage better on this data: 20% (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) more top speed.

Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.

What decides it, question by question?

Buyer questions for SOMECA 850 (TD) and VALMET 705/705-4, with the call on each
Question850 (TD)705/705-4Call
Which puts more power through the PTO shaft?57.1 kW (76.6 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 850”57.4 kW (77.0 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 705”EvenEven on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call.
Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft?No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 850 (TD) and the 705/705-4.
Which pulls harder at the drawbar?No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 850 (TD) and the 705/705-4.
Which pumps more oil for implements?38.0 L/min (10.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 850”48.0 L/min (12.7 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 705”AheadThe VALMET 705/705-4 has 26% more hydraulic flow (10.0 L/min / 2.6 gpm) than the SOMECA 850 (TD) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
Which lifts more on the three-point hitch?2,712 kg (5,979 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 850”No figureNo call on three-point lift: no figure on record for the 705/705-4.
Which is heavier, for traction?3,195 kg (7,044 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 850”3,790 kg (8,356 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 705”Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The VALMET 705/705-4 is 19% heavier (595 kg / 1,312 lb) than the SOMECA 850 (TD) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
Which may carry more ballast and load?No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 850 (TD) and the 705/705-4.
Which has the wider choice of gears?12 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 850”8 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 705”EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
Which offers a creeper range?No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 850 (TD) and the 705/705-4.
Which is faster on the road?25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 850”30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 705”AheadThe VALMET 705/705-4 has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the SOMECA 850 (TD) (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
Which offers more PTO speeds?540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 705”No figureNo call on PTO speeds: no standard PTO speed stated for the 850 (TD).
Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive?independentTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 705”No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 850 (TD).
Which drives on both axles?Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Someca 850”2WD / 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 705”EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
Which is newer, and what about parts?1969–19751983–1989Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The VALMET 705/705-4 is newer: production began 14 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.

What does this mean in plain words?

  • The VALMET 705/705-4 has 26% more hydraulic flow (10.0 L/min / 2.6 gpm) than the SOMECA 850 (TD) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
  • The VALMET 705/705-4 is 19% heavier (595 kg / 1,312 lb) than the SOMECA 850 (TD) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
  • The VALMET 705/705-4 has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the SOMECA 850 (TD) (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
  • The VALMET 705/705-4 is newer: production began 14 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
  • Even on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call.
  • Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
  • Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
  • No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, three-point lift, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range, PTO speeds and PTO independence.

← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources