SAME Rubin 120 or VALMET 6850 HiTech?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the Rubin 120 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 6850 HiTech has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The SAME Rubin 120 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 17% (1,260 kg / 2,778 lb) more three-point lift.
- The SAME Rubin 120 suits road haulage better on this data: 17% (1,500 kg / 3,307 lb) more maximum permissible mass.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | Rubin 120 | 6850 HiTech | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 88.3 kW (118.4 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Rubin 120” | 88.3 kW (118.4 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 6850 HiTech” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the Rubin 120 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 6850 HiTech has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the Rubin 120 and the 6850 HiTech. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the Rubin 120 and the 6850 HiTech. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | — | 73.8 L/min (19.5 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 6850 HiTech” | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the Rubin 120. |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 8,600 kg (18,960 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Rubin 120” | 7,340 kg (16,182 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 6850 HiTech” | AheadThe SAME Rubin 120 has 17% more lift (1,260 kg / 2,778 lb) than the VALMET 6850 HiTech (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 6,100 kg (13,448 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Rubin 120” | 4,720 kg (10,406 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 6850 HiTech” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The SAME Rubin 120 is 29% heavier (1,380 kg / 3,042 lb) than the VALMET 6850 HiTech (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 10,500 kg (23,149 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Rubin 120” | 9,000 kg (19,842 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 6850 HiTech” | AheadThe SAME Rubin 120 has 17% higher maximum permissible mass (1,500 kg / 3,307 lb) than the VALMET 6850 HiTech (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 18 to 27Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Rubin 120” | 36Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 6850 HiTech” | AheadThe VALMET 6850 HiTech has 33% more forward gears (9 gears) than the SAME Rubin 120 (both forward gears, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the Rubin 120 and the 6850 HiTech. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Rubin 120” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 6850 HiTech” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Rubin 120” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 6850 HiTech” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Rubin 120” | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 6850 HiTech. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Rubin 120” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 6850 HiTech” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1998–2004 | 1998–2006 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The SAME Rubin 120 has 17% more lift (1,260 kg / 2,778 lb) than the VALMET 6850 HiTech (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The SAME Rubin 120 is 29% heavier (1,380 kg / 3,042 lb) than the VALMET 6850 HiTech (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The SAME Rubin 120 has 17% higher maximum permissible mass (1,500 kg / 3,307 lb) than the VALMET 6850 HiTech (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source).
- The VALMET 6850 HiTech has 33% more forward gears (9 gears) than the SAME Rubin 120 (both forward gears, as stated by the source).
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the Rubin 120 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 6850 HiTech has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources