SAME Leopard 85 Export (DT) or VALMET 802/802-4?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the Leopard 85 Export (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 802/802-4 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The SAME Leopard 85 Export (DT) suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 46% (1,332 kg / 2,937 lb) more three-point lift.
- The VALMET 802/802-4 suits road haulage better on this data: 20% (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) more top speed.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “similar machines”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | Leopard 85 Export (DT) | 802/802-4 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 60.3 kW (80.9 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Leopard 85” | 60.3 kW (80.9 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 802” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the Leopard 85 Export (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 802/802-4 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the Leopard 85 Export (DT) and the 802/802-4. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the Leopard 85 Export (DT) and the 802/802-4. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | — | 43.0 L/min (11.4 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 802” | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the Leopard 85 Export (DT). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 4,232 kg (9,330 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Leopard 85” | 2,900 kg (6,393 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 802” | AheadThe SAME Leopard 85 Export (DT) has 46% more lift (1,332 kg / 2,937 lb) than the VALMET 802/802-4 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 3,450 kg (7,606 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Leopard 85” | 3,539 kg (7,802 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 802” | EvenEven on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the Leopard 85 Export (DT) and the 802/802-4. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Leopard 85” | 8Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 802” | AheadThe SAME Leopard 85 Export (DT) has 50% more forward gears (4 gears) than the VALMET 802/802-4 (both forward gears, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the Leopard 85 Export (DT) and the 802/802-4. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Leopard 85” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 802” | AheadThe VALMET 802/802-4 has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the SAME Leopard 85 Export (DT) (both top speed forward, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Leopard 85” | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 802” | AheadThe SAME Leopard 85 Export (DT) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the VALMET 802/802-4 does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 802” | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the Leopard 85 Export (DT). |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Leopard 85” | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 802” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1978–1982 | 1980–1983 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The SAME Leopard 85 Export (DT) has 46% more lift (1,332 kg / 2,937 lb) than the VALMET 802/802-4 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The SAME Leopard 85 Export (DT) has 50% more forward gears (4 gears) than the VALMET 802/802-4 (both forward gears, as stated by the source).
- The VALMET 802/802-4 has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the SAME Leopard 85 Export (DT) (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
- The SAME Leopard 85 Export (DT) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the VALMET 802/802-4 does not (as stated by the sources).
- Even on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the Leopard 85 Export (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 802/802-4 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources