SAME Explorer 80 (DT) or SOMECA 880 (TD)?

Which should you choose?

On performance, every comparable figure that differs favours the SAME Explorer 80 (DT): hydraulic flow and three-point lift. It is also ahead on top speed.

  • The SAME Explorer 80 (DT) suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 50% (13.5 L/min / 3.6 gpm) more hydraulic flow and 65% (1,360 kg / 2,998 lb) more three-point lift.
  • The SAME Explorer 80 (DT) suits road haulage better on this data: 20% (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) more top speed.

Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.

What decides it, question by question?

Buyer questions for SAME Explorer 80 (DT) and SOMECA 880 (TD), with the call on each
QuestionExplorer 80 (DT)880 (TD)Call
Which puts more power through the PTO shaft?54.1 kW (72.5 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Explorer 80”53.9 kW (72.3 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 880”EvenEven on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call.
Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft?No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the Explorer 80 (DT) and the 880 (TD).
Which pulls harder at the drawbar?No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the Explorer 80 (DT) and the 880 (TD).
Which pumps more oil for implements?40.5 L/min (10.7 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Explorer 80”27.0 L/min (7.1 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 880”AheadThe SAME Explorer 80 (DT) has 50% more hydraulic flow (13.5 L/min / 3.6 gpm) than the SOMECA 880 (TD) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
Which lifts more on the three-point hitch?3,450 kg (7,606 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Explorer 80”2,090 kg (4,608 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 880”AheadThe SAME Explorer 80 (DT) has 65% more lift (1,360 kg / 2,998 lb) than the SOMECA 880 (TD) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
Which is heavier, for traction?3,000 kg (6,614 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Explorer 80”2,945 kg (6,493 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 880”EvenEven on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
Which may carry more ballast and load?5,850 kg (12,897 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 880”No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the Explorer 80 (DT).
Which has the wider choice of gears?12 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Explorer 80”8 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 880”EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
Which offers a creeper range?YesTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Explorer 80”No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 880 (TD).
Which is faster on the road?30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Explorer 80”25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 880”AheadThe SAME Explorer 80 (DT) has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the SOMECA 880 (TD) (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
Which offers more PTO speeds?540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Explorer 80”540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Someca 880”EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive?independentTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Explorer 80”independentTraktorenlexikon, “Someca 880”EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
Which drives on both axles?Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Explorer 80”Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Someca 880”EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
Which is newer, and what about parts?1986–19901975–1980Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The SAME Explorer 80 (DT) is newer: production began 11 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.

What does this mean in plain words?

  • The SAME Explorer 80 (DT) has 50% more hydraulic flow (13.5 L/min / 3.6 gpm) than the SOMECA 880 (TD) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
  • The SAME Explorer 80 (DT) has 65% more lift (1,360 kg / 2,998 lb) than the SOMECA 880 (TD) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
  • The SAME Explorer 80 (DT) has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the SOMECA 880 (TD) (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
  • The SAME Explorer 80 (DT) is newer: production began 11 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
  • Even on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call.
  • Even on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
  • Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
  • Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
  • Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
  • Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
  • No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass and a creeper range.

← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources