Renault Ceres 95 (A) or SAME Dorado 85 (DT)?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the Ceres 95 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Dorado 85 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Renault Ceres 95 (A) suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 27% (970 kg / 2,138 lb) more three-point lift.
- The Renault Ceres 95 (A) suits road haulage better on this data: 20% (1,000 kg / 2,205 lb) more maximum permissible mass.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | Ceres 95 (A) | Dorado 85 (DT) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 61.1 kW (81.9 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 95” | 61.0 kW (81.8 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the Ceres 95 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Dorado 85 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the Ceres 95 (A) and the Dorado 85 (DT). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the Ceres 95 (A) and the Dorado 85 (DT). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 45.3 L/min (12.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 95” | — | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the Dorado 85 (DT). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 4,570 kg (10,075 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 95” | 3,600 kg (7,937 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85” | AheadThe Renault Ceres 95 (A) has 27% more lift (970 kg / 2,138 lb) than the SAME Dorado 85 (DT) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 3,330 kg (7,341 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 95” | 2,660 kg (5,864 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Renault Ceres 95 (A) is 25% heavier (670 kg / 1,477 lb) than the SAME Dorado 85 (DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 6,000 kg (13,228 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 95” | 5,000 kg (11,023 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85” | AheadThe Renault Ceres 95 (A) has 20% higher maximum permissible mass (1,000 kg / 2,205 lb) than the SAME Dorado 85 (DT) (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 18 to 20Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 95” | 30 to 45Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85” | AheadThe SAME Dorado 85 (DT) has 50% more forward gears (10 gears) than the Renault Ceres 95 (A) (both forward gears, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the Ceres 95 (A) and the Dorado 85 (DT). |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 95” | 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 95” | 540/540E rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85” | AheadThe Renault Ceres 95 (A) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the SAME Dorado 85 (DT) does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 95” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WD / 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 95” | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1992–1995 | 2000–2004 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The SAME Dorado 85 (DT) is newer: production began 8 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Renault Ceres 95 (A) has 27% more lift (970 kg / 2,138 lb) than the SAME Dorado 85 (DT) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The Renault Ceres 95 (A) is 25% heavier (670 kg / 1,477 lb) than the SAME Dorado 85 (DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Renault Ceres 95 (A) has 20% higher maximum permissible mass (1,000 kg / 2,205 lb) than the SAME Dorado 85 (DT) (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source).
- The SAME Dorado 85 (DT) has 50% more forward gears (10 gears) than the Renault Ceres 95 (A) (both forward gears, as stated by the source).
- The Renault Ceres 95 (A) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the SAME Dorado 85 (DT) does not (as stated by the sources).
- The SAME Dorado 85 (DT) is newer: production began 8 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the Ceres 95 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Dorado 85 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources