Renault Ares 836 RZ or SAME Titan 190?
Which should you choose?
On performance, every comparable figure that differs favours the Renault Ares 836 RZ: three-point lift and maximum permissible mass.
- The Renault Ares 836 RZ suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 34% (2,960 kg / 6,526 lb) more three-point lift.
- The Renault Ares 836 RZ suits road haulage better on this data: 20% (2,000 kg / 4,409 lb) more maximum permissible mass.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | Ares 836 RZ | Titan 190 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 132.9 kW (178.2 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 836 RZ” | 132.9 kW (178.2 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 190” | EvenEven on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the Ares 836 RZ and the Titan 190. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the Ares 836 RZ and the Titan 190. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | — | 61.8 L/min (16.3 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 190” | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the Ares 836 RZ. |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 11,560 kg (25,485 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 836 RZ” | 8,600 kg (18,960 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 190” | AheadThe Renault Ares 836 RZ has 34% more lift (2,960 kg / 6,526 lb) than the SAME Titan 190 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 8,150 kg (17,968 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 836 RZ” | 6,510 kg (14,352 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 190” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Renault Ares 836 RZ is 25% heavier (1,640 kg / 3,616 lb) than the SAME Titan 190 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 12,000 kg (26,455 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 836 RZ” | 10,000 kg (22,046 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 190” | AheadThe Renault Ares 836 RZ has 20% higher maximum permissible mass (2,000 kg / 4,409 lb) than the SAME Titan 190 (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 32Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 836 RZ” | 27Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 190” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the Ares 836 RZ and the Titan 190. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 836 RZ” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 190” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmOECD test report 2109, 2004 | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 190” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 836 RZ” | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the Titan 190. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 836 RZ”; OECD test report 2109, 2004 | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 190” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 2001–2005 | 1992–2001 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Renault Ares 836 RZ is newer: production began 9 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Renault Ares 836 RZ has 34% more lift (2,960 kg / 6,526 lb) than the SAME Titan 190 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The Renault Ares 836 RZ is 25% heavier (1,640 kg / 3,616 lb) than the SAME Titan 190 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Renault Ares 836 RZ has 20% higher maximum permissible mass (2,000 kg / 4,409 lb) than the SAME Titan 190 (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source).
- The Renault Ares 836 RZ is newer: production began 9 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources