Renault Ares 816 RZ or VALMET 8400?
Which should you choose?
On performance, every comparable figure that differs favours the Renault Ares 816 RZ: three-point lift and maximum permissible mass.
- The Renault Ares 816 RZ suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 64% (4,495 kg / 9,910 lb) more three-point lift.
- The Renault Ares 816 RZ suits road haulage better on this data: 31% (2,780 kg / 6,129 lb) more maximum permissible mass.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | Ares 816 RZ | 8400 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 100.8 kW (135.2 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 816 RZ” | 102.4 kW (137.3 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 8400” | EvenEven on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the Ares 816 RZ and the 8400. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the Ares 816 RZ and the 8400. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | — | 73.2 L/min (19.3 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 8400” | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the Ares 816 RZ. |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 11,560 kg (25,485 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 816 RZ” | 7,065 kg (15,576 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 8400” | AheadThe Renault Ares 816 RZ has 64% more lift (4,495 kg / 9,910 lb) than the VALMET 8400 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 7,300 kg (16,094 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 816 RZ” | 5,040 kg (11,111 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 8400” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Renault Ares 816 RZ is 45% heavier (2,260 kg / 4,982 lb) than the VALMET 8400 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 11,780 kg (25,970 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 816 RZ” | 9,000 kg (19,842 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 8400” | AheadThe Renault Ares 816 RZ has 31% higher maximum permissible mass (2,780 kg / 6,129 lb) than the VALMET 8400 (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 32Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 816 RZ” | 12 to 36Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 8400” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the Ares 816 RZ and the 8400. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 816 RZ” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 8400” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmOECD test report 2108, 2004 | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 8400” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 816 RZ” | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 8400. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 816 RZ”; OECD test report 2108, 2004 | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 8400” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 2001–2005 | 1993–2004 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Renault Ares 816 RZ is newer: production began 8 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Renault Ares 816 RZ has 64% more lift (4,495 kg / 9,910 lb) than the VALMET 8400 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The Renault Ares 816 RZ is 45% heavier (2,260 kg / 4,982 lb) than the VALMET 8400 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Renault Ares 816 RZ has 31% higher maximum permissible mass (2,780 kg / 6,129 lb) than the VALMET 8400 (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source).
- The Renault Ares 816 RZ is newer: production began 8 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources