Renault 97-54 TS or VALMET 865-2/865?

Which should you choose?

The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 97-54 TS has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 865-2/865 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.

Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.

What decides it, question by question?

Buyer questions for Renault 97-54 TS and VALMET 865-2/865, with the call on each
Question97-54 TS865-2/865Call
Which puts more power through the PTO shaft?64 kW (86 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 97-54 TS R 7802”64 kW (86 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 865”Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 97-54 TS has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 865-2/865 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft?——No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 97-54 TS and the 865-2/865.
Which pulls harder at the drawbar?——No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 97-54 TS and the 865-2/865.
Which pumps more oil for implements?41.6 L/min (11.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 97-54 TS R 7802”57.0 L/min (15.1 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 865”AheadThe VALMET 865-2/865 has 37% more hydraulic flow (15.4 L/min / 4.1 gpm) than the Renault 97-54 TS (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
Which lifts more on the three-point hitch?4,750 kg (10,472 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 97-54 TS R 7802”3,365 kg (7,419 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 865”AheadThe Renault 97-54 TS has 41% more lift (1,385 kg / 3,053 lb) than the VALMET 865-2/865 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
Which is heavier, for traction?4,620 kg (10,185 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 97-54 TS R 7802”3,190 kg (7,033 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 865”Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Renault 97-54 TS is 45% heavier (1,430 kg / 3,153 lb) than the VALMET 865-2/865 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
Which may carry more ballast and load?——No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 97-54 TS and the 865-2/865.
Which has the wider choice of gears?16Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 97-54 TS R 7802”8 to 12Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 865”AheadThe Renault 97-54 TS has 33% more forward gears (4 gears) than the VALMET 865-2/865 (both forward gears, as stated by the source).
Which offers a creeper range?——No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 97-54 TS and the 865-2/865.
Which is faster on the road?30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 97-54 TS R 7802”30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 865”EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
Which offers more PTO speeds?540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 97-54 TS R 7802”540E/540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 865”AheadThe Renault 97-54 TS offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the VALMET 865-2/865 does not (as stated by the sources).
Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive?—independentTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 865”No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 97-54 TS.
Which drives on both axles?4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 97-54 TS R 7802”Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 865”EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
Which is newer, and what about parts?19901996–1997Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The VALMET 865-2/865 is newer: production began 6 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.

What does this mean in plain words?

  • The VALMET 865-2/865 has 37% more hydraulic flow (15.4 L/min / 4.1 gpm) than the Renault 97-54 TS (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
  • The Renault 97-54 TS has 41% more lift (1,385 kg / 3,053 lb) than the VALMET 865-2/865 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
  • The Renault 97-54 TS is 45% heavier (1,430 kg / 3,153 lb) than the VALMET 865-2/865 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
  • The Renault 97-54 TS has 33% more forward gears (4 gears) than the VALMET 865-2/865 (both forward gears, as stated by the source).
  • The Renault 97-54 TS offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the VALMET 865-2/865 does not (as stated by the sources).
  • The VALMET 865-2/865 is newer: production began 6 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
  • Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
  • Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
  • Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 97-54 TS has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 865-2/865 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
  • No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.

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