Renault 891-4 (S) or SOMECA 850 (TD)?
Which should you choose?
The figures split: the SOMECA 850 (TD) is ahead on hydraulic flow; the Renault 891-4 (S) is ahead on three-point lift.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 891-4 (S) | 850 (TD) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 56.7 kW (76.0 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 891-4 R7684” | 57.1 kW (76.6 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 850” | EvenEven on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 891-4 (S) and the 850 (TD). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 891-4 (S) and the 850 (TD). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 32.6 L/min (8.6 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 891-4 R7684” | 38.0 L/min (10.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 850” | AheadThe SOMECA 850 (TD) has 17% more hydraulic flow (5.4 L/min / 1.4 gpm) than the Renault 891-4 (S) (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 3,440 kg (7,584 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 891-4 R7684” | 2,712 kg (5,979 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 850” | AheadThe Renault 891-4 (S) has 27% more lift (728 kg / 1,605 lb) than the SOMECA 850 (TD) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 4,740 kg (10,450 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 891-4 R7684” | 3,195 kg (7,044 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 850” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Renault 891-4 (S) is 48% heavier (1,545 kg / 3,406 lb) than the SOMECA 850 (TD) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 891-4 (S) and the 850 (TD). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 891-4 R7684” | 12 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 850” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | YesTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 891-4 R7684” | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 850 (TD). |
| Which is faster on the road? | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 891-4 R7684” | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 850” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 891-4 R7684” | — | No figureNo call on PTO speeds: no standard PTO speed stated for the 850 (TD). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 891-4 (S) and the 850 (TD). |
| Which drives on both axles? | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 891-4 R7684” | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Someca 850” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1977–1982 | 1969–1975 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Renault 891-4 (S) is newer: production began 8 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The SOMECA 850 (TD) has 17% more hydraulic flow (5.4 L/min / 1.4 gpm) than the Renault 891-4 (S) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The Renault 891-4 (S) has 27% more lift (728 kg / 1,605 lb) than the SOMECA 850 (TD) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The Renault 891-4 (S) is 48% heavier (1,545 kg / 3,406 lb) than the SOMECA 850 (TD) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Renault 891-4 (S) is newer: production began 8 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range, PTO speeds and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources