Renault 851-4 (S) or WHITE 2-85?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 851-4 (S) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 2-85 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The WHITE 2-85 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 125% (42.0 L/min / 11.1 gpm) more hydraulic flow.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 851-4 (S) | 2-85 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 62.6 kW (83.9 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 851-4 R7664” | 63.3 kW (84.9 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “White 2-85” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 851-4 (S) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 2-85 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 851-4 (S) and the 2-85. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 851-4 (S) and the 2-85. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 33.7 L/min (8.9 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 851-4 R7664” | 75.7 L/min (20.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “White 2-85” | AheadThe WHITE 2-85 has 125% more hydraulic flow (42.0 L/min / 11.1 gpm) than the Renault 851-4 (S) (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 3,720 kg (8,201 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 851-4 R7664” | — | No figureNo call on three-point lift: no figure on record for the 2-85. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 3,435 kg (7,573 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 851-4 R7664” | 5,307 kg (11,700 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “White 2-85” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The WHITE 2-85 is 54% heavier (1,872 kg / 4,127 lb) than the Renault 851-4 (S) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 851-4 (S) and the 2-85. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 851-4 R7664” | 6 to 18Traktorenlexikon, “White 2-85” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | YesTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 851-4 R7664” | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 2-85. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 851-4 R7664” | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “White 2-85” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 851-4 R7664” | 1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “White 2-85” | AheadThe Renault 851-4 (S) offers 540 rpm at the PTO, which the WHITE 2-85 does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 851-4 (S) and the 2-85. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 851-4 R7664” | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “White 2-85” | AheadThe Renault 851-4 (S) is available with four-wheel drive; the WHITE 2-85 is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources). |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1974–1989 | 1976–1982 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The WHITE 2-85 has 125% more hydraulic flow (42.0 L/min / 11.1 gpm) than the Renault 851-4 (S) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The WHITE 2-85 is 54% heavier (1,872 kg / 4,127 lb) than the Renault 851-4 (S) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Renault 851-4 (S) offers 540 rpm at the PTO, which the WHITE 2-85 does not (as stated by the sources).
- The Renault 851-4 (S) is available with four-wheel drive; the WHITE 2-85 is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources).
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 851-4 (S) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 2-85 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, three-point lift, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources