Renault 85-34 MX or Renault Ceres 335?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 85-34 MX: power at the PTO, claimed (Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 85-34 ME/MA/MS/MX R3162”); the Ceres 335: power at the PTO, measured by a laboratory at maximum power (OECD Test 1969) — not the same quantity, basis and condition.
- The Renault Ceres 335 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 23% (9.7 L/min / 2.6 gpm) more hydraulic flow.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 85-34 MX | Ceres 335 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 53.6 kW (71.9 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 85-34 ME/MA/MS/MX R3162” | 53.5 kW (71.7 hp)OECD Test 1969 | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 85-34 MX: power at the PTO, claimed (Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 85-34 ME/MA/MS/MX R3162”); the Ceres 335: power at the PTO, measured by a laboratory at maximum power (OECD Test 1969) — not the same quantity, basis and condition. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 85-34 MX and the Ceres 335. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | 45.4 kW (60.9 hp)OECD Test 1969 | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 85-34 MX. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 41.4 L/min (10.9 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 85-34 ME/MA/MS/MX R3162” | 51.1 L/min (13.5 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 335” | AheadThe Renault Ceres 335 has 23% more hydraulic flow (9.7 L/min / 2.6 gpm) than the Renault 85-34 MX (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 3,825 kg (8,433 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 85-34 ME/MA/MS/MX R3162” | 4,110 kg (9,061 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 335” | EvenEven on three-point lift (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 3,800 kg (8,378 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 85-34 ME/MA/MS/MX R3162” | 3,680 kg (8,113 lb) to 3,760 kg (8,289 lb), varies by configurationTraktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 335” | EvenEven on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 6,000 kg (13,228 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 85-34 ME/MA/MS/MX R3162” | 5,860 kg (12,919 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 335” | EvenEven on maximum permissible mass (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12 to 24Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 85-34 ME/MA/MS/MX R3162” | 18OECD test report 1969, 2001 | Sources disagreeNo call on forward gears: sources disagree on the figure for the Ceres 335. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 85-34 MX and the Ceres 335. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 85-34 ME/MA/MS/MX R3162” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 335” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 85-34 ME/MA/MS/MX R3162” | 540/1000 rpmOECD test report 1978, 2002 | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 85-34 ME/MA/MS/MX R3162” | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the Ceres 335. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 85-34 ME/MA/MS/MX R3162” | 4WDOECD test report 1969, 2001; OECD test report 1978, 2002; Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 335” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1989–1993 | 2000–2004 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Renault Ceres 335 is newer: production began 11 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Renault Ceres 335 has 23% more hydraulic flow (9.7 L/min / 2.6 gpm) than the Renault 85-34 MX (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The Renault Ceres 335 is newer: production began 11 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on three-point lift (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on maximum permissible mass (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 85-34 MX: power at the PTO, claimed (Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 85-34 ME/MA/MS/MX R3162”); the Ceres 335: power at the PTO, measured by a laboratory at maximum power (OECD Test 1969) — not the same quantity, basis and condition.
- No call on forward gears: sources disagree on the figure for the Ceres 335.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources