Renault 85-12 LS or Renault 85-32 MX?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 85-12 LS has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 85-32 MX has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 85-12 LS | 85-32 MX | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 57.4 kW (77.0 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 85-12 LS R3161” | 57.4 kW (77.0 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 85-32 ME/MA/MS/MX R3161” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 85-12 LS has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 85-32 MX has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 85-12 LS and the 85-32 MX. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 85-12 LS and the 85-32 MX. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 41.5 L/min (11.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 85-12 LS R3161” | 41.4 L/min (10.9 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 85-32 ME/MA/MS/MX R3161” | EvenEven on hydraulic flow (both pump flow, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 3,825 kg (8,433 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 85-12 LS R3161” | 3,825 kg (8,433 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 85-32 ME/MA/MS/MX R3161” | EvenEven on three-point lift (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 3,005 kg (6,625 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 85-12 LS R3161” | 3,420 kg (7,540 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 85-32 ME/MA/MS/MX R3161” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Renault 85-32 MX is 14% heavier (415 kg / 915 lb) than the Renault 85-12 LS (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 5,650 kg (12,456 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 85-12 LS R3161” | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 85-32 MX. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12 to 24Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 85-12 LS R3161” | 12 to 24Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 85-32 ME/MA/MS/MX R3161” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 85-12 LS and the 85-32 MX. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 85-12 LS R3161” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 85-32 ME/MA/MS/MX R3161” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 85-12 LS R3161” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 85-32 ME/MA/MS/MX R3161” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 85-12 LS R3161” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 85-32 ME/MA/MS/MX R3161” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 85-12 LS R3161” | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 85-32 ME/MA/MS/MX R3161” | EvenEven on drive: all two-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1985–1989 | 1989–1993 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Renault 85-32 MX is 14% heavier (415 kg / 915 lb) than the Renault 85-12 LS (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- Even on hydraulic flow (both pump flow, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on three-point lift (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: all two-wheel drive.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 85-12 LS has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 85-32 MX has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources