Renault 781 (S) or SAME Saturno 80 (DT)?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 781 (S) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Saturno 80 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Renault 781 (S) suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 71% (1,540 kg / 3,395 lb) more three-point lift.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 781 (S) | Saturno 80 (DT) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 57.4 kW (77.0 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 781 R7591” | 56.6 kW (75.9 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Saturno 80 Synchro” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 781 (S) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Saturno 80 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 781 (S) and the Saturno 80 (DT). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 781 (S) and the Saturno 80 (DT). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 32.0 L/min (8.5 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 781 R7591” | — | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the Saturno 80 (DT). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 3,720 kg (8,201 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 781 R7591” | 2,180 kg (4,806 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Saturno 80 Synchro” | AheadThe Renault 781 (S) has 71% more lift (1,540 kg / 3,395 lb) than the SAME Saturno 80 (DT) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 3,410 kg (7,518 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 781 R7591” | 2,760 kg (6,085 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Saturno 80 Synchro” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Renault 781 (S) is 24% heavier (650 kg / 1,433 lb) than the SAME Saturno 80 (DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 781 (S) and the Saturno 80 (DT). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 781 R7591” | 8 to 14Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Saturno 80 Synchro” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | YesTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 781 R7591” | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the Saturno 80 (DT). |
| Which is faster on the road? | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 781 R7591” | 25 km/h (15.5 mph) to 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Saturno 80 Synchro” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 781 R7591” | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Saturno 80 Synchro” | AheadThe Renault 781 (S) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the SAME Saturno 80 (DT) does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 781 (S) and the Saturno 80 (DT). |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 781 R7591” | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Saturno 80 Synchro” | AheadThe SAME Saturno 80 (DT) is available with four-wheel drive; the Renault 781 (S) is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources). |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1977–1985 | 1972–1980 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Renault 781 (S) is newer: production began 5 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Renault 781 (S) has 71% more lift (1,540 kg / 3,395 lb) than the SAME Saturno 80 (DT) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The Renault 781 (S) is 24% heavier (650 kg / 1,433 lb) than the SAME Saturno 80 (DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Renault 781 (S) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the SAME Saturno 80 (DT) does not (as stated by the sources).
- The SAME Saturno 80 (DT) is available with four-wheel drive; the Renault 781 (S) is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources).
- The Renault 781 (S) is newer: production began 5 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 781 (S) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Saturno 80 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources